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Old January 23rd, 2012, 11:35 AM   #1
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Default Is a CRF 450 more bike then a newbie would need?

I want to do it right the first time . I know with my street bikes I went from 500 to a 900 quickly.

Should I get a 250, or just jump right to a 450? I've rode bikes before, but never on the trail.


I think a 250 is plenty for trails which I'm guessing that is all I will be doing, and I think the 450 would be more of a tank. I don't care about 2 stroke vs 4 stroke, but two of my dirt biking friends swear on those 450's


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Old January 23rd, 2012, 11:42 AM   #2
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If you have riding experience and weigh more than 150 lbs. you should be fine.
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Old January 23rd, 2012, 11:44 AM   #3
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If you have riding experience and weigh more than 150 lbs. you should be fine.

I am 195, and I have very little dirt bike experience, but a lot of street bike experience. I just don't want to buy a 250 and be upset after a couple times out that I don't have more... But I don't want to spend the money on a 450 if a 250 would keep me happy.
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Old January 23rd, 2012, 11:44 AM   #4
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I ride a 250 TTr. I need something bigger and I'm the size of a dwarf.
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Old January 23rd, 2012, 11:49 AM   #5
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CRF450- OK for trail noob.



The CR500's were the noob killers.
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Old January 23rd, 2012, 11:55 AM   #6
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A 250 is plenty of bike for anybody. My buddy rides a 250f and its almost as fast as my cr250 plus gets great gas mileage. The only need for a 450 or even 250 2-stroke is in the dunes where more power is needed due to the deep sand. You will be happy with a 250f and if you want a lil more power down the road you can get a big bore kit or even do an pipe and silencer.

Check out 250 two strokes as well they're very fast and much cheaper to buy and maintain then a four stroke
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Old January 23rd, 2012, 11:56 AM   #7
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I am 195, and I have very little dirt bike experience, but a lot of street bike experience. I just don't want to buy a 250 and be upset after a couple times out that I don't have more... But I don't want to spend the money on a 450 if a 250 would keep me happy.
From what I've heard looking into the same thing, you would quickly grow out of a 4-stroke 250. If you buy an older two stroke 250 you would probably have a lot of fun for a long time.
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Old January 23rd, 2012, 11:56 AM   #8
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When in doubt go with the bigger one.

I have ridden these kind of bikes a few times, and its just like anything else once you get used to it you are going to want more power and go faster.

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Old January 23rd, 2012, 12:02 PM   #9
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my brother is selling his ktm 250 sxf

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he might take a superjet on trade
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Old January 23rd, 2012, 12:03 PM   #10
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I think either one will work well for you. If you want a low maint. machine look at the drz400 as well. Of course, if your just going to be doing trails and such.
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Old January 23rd, 2012, 12:10 PM   #11
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I learned on an early 90's yamaha 280 4 stroke. A few years later i bought an atk 250cc 2t that didnt have a power valve. Now I have a 01 rm250 2t that i am re-working for more power.

If you can excersize a bit of throttle control and not be wfo out of the gate, I think you would be fine since you have a little street bike experience.

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Trails only I would do the 250f. It doesn't have the power that a 450 does obviously but it is lighter and more nimble. It is easy to get in trouble in the woods with too much throttle. I got out of bikes because I wanted a harness and a rollcage.
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I am 195, and I have very little dirt bike experience, but a lot of street bike experience. I just don't want to buy a 250 and be upset after a couple times out that I don't have more... But I don't want to spend the money on a 450 if a 250 would keep me happy.
I'd say pull the trigger on the 450. Like what's been said already, you will gain confidence on it the longer you ride. I think a lot of the reason people are buying the 450s is you get the low end power without sacrificing much top end speed. Really the 250 would do everything the 450 will trail wise. You will wish you had the 450 when you are eating dust from your buddies on some of the more open trails.
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I would definitely go with the 250. I know plenty of people that have rode bikes for 10 years or so, and they still stay with a 250. Most of them are 150-180 pounds or so, so different shocks may be in need, depending on your riding style. I say price is a key factor. If you can get a 450 for not much more than a 250, then jump on the 450
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Old January 23rd, 2012, 12:19 PM   #15
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I have a 250rm and I love it. Ride it on the trails up north on 18 and 61. Haven't had a problem with it. Very quick and fast. Sometimes I wish I had a cr450 but my 250rm is fine for me. Can't go wrong with a 2stroke. Great for trails, not so much with wide open riding in my opinion.
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Old January 23rd, 2012, 12:21 PM   #16
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I would not be worried about dirtbike experience if you have ridden a street bike. I went from an xr100 to an xr650r with no problems.
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Yea my dad trail rides an xr650 and loves it. I had a 400 with some work done to it. It was awesome. Light and quick.
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Old January 23rd, 2012, 12:52 PM   #18
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Take it from someone who has owned and raced just about everything out there, including several years on the GNCC series. Go with the 450. Add a flywheel weight and the thing will be an excelent trail rig. On the current CRF450 I've been riding, you can leave the thing in 3 rd gear most of the day and lug it trough the corners like a tractor, yet open it up and skip across the sand whoops with a quick blip of the throttle. You hit an open section and it's nice to be able to grab another gear and leave your buddies in the dust. I find that when I'm on a 250F I'm all over the gear shifter and hard on the clutch trying to make power out of the thing. Each time I end up back on a 450F because the low end power and torque. If you are interested, I have a super clean 03' CRF450 all set up for trail that I'm getting reeady to sell. Once spring hits I plan on bringing it into the new shop, David Allen Racing Motorsports (the old Powers Motorsports) and it will sell fast. PM me if you are interested.
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Old January 23rd, 2012, 01:25 PM   #19
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Crf 250 or 450 depends on money a 250 can walk all over a 450 ib the trails.. it depends on the rider... 450s when i rode it didnt seem much heavier then the 250.. im 5,9 160lbs.
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