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Old January 6th, 2012, 01:38 PM   #21
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you're right. No doubt.

I just about shit when I paid $3.67 for gas at lunch today.

I just checked on gas buddy and the station I got diesel for 3.69 at yesterday is at 3.79 now.

Gas prices are retarded
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Old January 6th, 2012, 03:06 PM   #22
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$3.67 for gas? Holy shit, I paid $2.72 to fill my Jeep last week and $3.05 a couple days ago to fill my DD with premium.


It's interesting to see the positive responses here regarding the v10, from people that actually have had experience with them. As much as I'd like a diesel, I've been considering a ford big-block v8 or v-10 in the f250/f350 more and more.
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Old January 6th, 2012, 03:15 PM   #23
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A friend of mine runs a charterboat outfit in the UP, he always had diesels. He bought a 2011 with a V10.
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Old January 6th, 2012, 03:24 PM   #24
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Ford killed the V10 for 2011 unless he went bigger than an F350.
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Old January 6th, 2012, 03:36 PM   #25
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Old January 6th, 2012, 07:04 PM   #26
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i had an 03 excursion, and i loved my V-10... after switching to amsoil and a drop in free flow air filter i would average 13 around town... i just loved the fact that i could haul 8 people plus gear and haul the bobcat... kick myself in the ass for selling it
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Old January 6th, 2012, 10:37 PM   #27
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The first generation V10s sucked ass. They seemed to have a problem burning up pistions. I replaced a number of them years ago. I made a tool that would let me pull the motor without moving the cab back. I did one in a class A motor home too. That job suck massive monkey balls.
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Old January 6th, 2012, 11:04 PM   #28
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i have an 02 f250 4x4 2v v10. i got it from my friends dad. he replaced it with an 05 3v v10 4x4 f250. they are both are great trucks. the 3 valve has a little more power. i can get 14 to 15 mpg on the freeway empty if i keep it about 65 to 67 mph on flat land, with no winds. it drops fast if i speed or get into hills or winds. it will pull anything without issue. mine has been severly over loaded often without issue. my truck camper in the bed loaded, and my jeep and parts/tools on the trailer i was between 16k and 18k. over 3k of that was payload. it went all over michigan like that. when i was hauling real heavy at 60mph with the over drive off i got between 7.5 and 8.5 mpg. my 02 has about 118k miles now. it will give a small puff of smoke when you first start it up cold after sitting for a long time(weeks). it will use a quart of oil about every 3 to 5k miles. i did have the broken exhaust manifold bolt issue. its common to every ford modular engine(4.6,5,4,6.8). the parts were cheap, but its a pain in the ass to fix. i just changed one plug and coil at about 115k mi. i change the oil every 3 to 4 k mi with motorcraft 5w20 and usually a wix filter. i put in 2 air filters. otherwise its totally factory. it still has the factory battery even(im about to change it). i have done front brakes twice, and the rears once. did ball joints, axle joints, and wheel bearings at about 100k. did the rear u joint at about 90k. the newer 05 3v super duty has had a few minor issues more than my 02, but nothing major. its at about 90k mi now. if the mpg dont scare ya get one! they are great.

2000-2004 V-10...310 hp @4250 rpm, 425 ft/lb torque @3250 rpm (2-valve)

2005 up V-10...362 hp @4750 rpm, 457 ft/lb torque @3250 rpm (3-valve)

the reports of "stock" diesels having twice the torque are slightly inflated.

2002 and later super dutys are the best option. less engine problems, and a hi pinon 60 front, are hard to argue against.

if you tow all the time, drive 30k miles a year, or or live in the mountains get a diesel.
for flat land, and towing a few times a month, get the v10.

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Old January 6th, 2012, 11:40 PM   #29
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Well, stock 2011 diesels make 800 ft lbs, its close enough to being twice.
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Well, stock 2011 diesels make 800 ft lbs, its close enough to being twice.
almost true today, but i thought he was looking at the early 3v v10, like 05ish.
what was the tq numbers on the 05 to 06 diesles? 600 ish i think??

im not anti diesel, i drive a semi for a living. i got my v10 cause i got a killer deal on a mint "old man" owned truck. it was never worked hard, no plow, no 5th wheel hitch. his wife worked at a ford dealer, so it was regularly serviced.
it had every 2002 option but moon roof, and the best color available (torreador red).

diesels are great, if i drove my truck more, i would have one.
i put about 3.5k miles on my truck last year. about 8k in the last 2 years.
with so little use, the diesel is not cost effective. living near sea level it just not needed. it would be fun though.

plus mine is paid off, and still in good shape!

a new diesel would be sweet! whats a brand new loaded 250 4x4 diesel sc/sb
lariat worth now? $50k, 55k? thats just crazy. thats almost double what my house cost(yes my house is a shit hole).
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i get 12 to 13 unloaded w my v10. 9 or 10 towing. i have the 430 gears w 285 tires.
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Old January 7th, 2012, 02:32 PM   #32
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I have one in my Excursion which I think is the generation before the 3v. Only problem I have is the exhaust manifold studs breaking. Not sure if the new ones have that problem at all.
The one i had to pull out of a lil mud hole, with your trailer and jeep hooked up to it lol.

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Old January 7th, 2012, 04:38 PM   #33
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i want to put one in my 86 mustang
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Old January 7th, 2012, 05:47 PM   #34
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i get 12 to 13 unloaded w my v10. 9 or 10 towing. i have the 430 gears w 285 tires.
i got 3.73's and 285's. it does ok if you find the sweet spot in the rpms.
too fast or too slow hurt it mpg wise.
i do a little better on the freeway, a little worse towing.
about what i expected.

if i had 4.10 or even 4.30 gears id have 35" tires. it would kill me with 3.73's though

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Old January 8th, 2012, 10:19 AM   #35
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almost true today, but i thought he was looking at the early 3v v10, like 05ish.
what was the tq numbers on the 05 to 06 diesles? 600 ish i think??

im not anti diesel, i drive a semi for a living. i got my v10 cause i got a killer deal on a mint "old man" owned truck. it was never worked hard, no plow, no 5th wheel hitch. his wife worked at a ford dealer, so it was regularly serviced.
it had every 2002 option but moon roof, and the best color available (torreador red).

diesels are great, if i drove my truck more, i would have one.
i put about 3.5k miles on my truck last year. about 8k in the last 2 years.
with so little use, the diesel is not cost effective. living near sea level it just not needed. it would be fun though.

plus mine is paid off, and still in good shape!

a new diesel would be sweet! whats a brand new loaded 250 4x4 diesel sc/sb
lariat worth now? $50k, 55k? thats just crazy. thats almost double what my house cost(yes my house is a shit hole).
I guess I was being a bit off - basing the torque values for my 2011 6.0L vs. the 2011 6.6L.

6.0L: 380 @ 4200
6.6L: 765 @ 1600

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i got 3.73's and 285's. it does ok if you find the sweet spot in the rpms.
too fast or too slow hurt it mpg wise.
i do a little better on the freeway, a little worse towing.
about what i expected.

if i had 4.10 or even 4.30 gears id have 35" tires. it would kill me with 3.73's though
i will have 35's or 37's on mine in the spring.have had a lift for it just no time to do it.
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i put about 3.5k miles on my truck last year. about 8k in the last 2 years.
with so little use, the diesel is not cost effective. living near sea level it just not needed. it would be fun though.

a new diesel would be sweet! whats a brand new loaded 250 4x4 diesel sc/sb
lariat worth now? $50k, 55k? thats just crazy. thats almost double what my house cost(yes my house is a shit hole).
You hit the nail on the head. I plan to do 3-4k miles per year towing and the V10 is far more cost effective than a diesel for that. There aren't big enough hills out here to worry about.
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