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Old October 20th, 2011, 02:47 PM   #1
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I have a 89 4wd pickup with a 5spd and 22re motor and was wondering how hard it is to switch to the 22r motor and get rid of the computers.I know sounds crazy but I want to be able to fix it in the woods if need be.I just helped my son do it on his 91 ford 300 six.This being my first toyota I am not sure what would be involved.Any help would be great.
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Old October 20th, 2011, 02:59 PM   #2
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Fix the motor in the woods?
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Old October 20th, 2011, 03:06 PM   #3
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22re are not known to fail. I have had mine run through everything and never have I had a computer problem. I put my in a puddle that made the truck float. hydrolocked that engine and after I fixed the broken engine parts the fuel injection just worked. Only the old school people will tell you that carbs are better.

To answer your question though it is vey easy. just get a carb intake and bolt it on, different distriubutor, carb coil and igniter and you should be set.

I would never do this though. you are gonna loose power and your chances of breaking down will stay the same since 22re efi doesn't fail.
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Old October 20th, 2011, 03:07 PM   #4
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Air fuel spark,no in tank fuel pump,no computer to fail or needed to check trouble codes for bad censers.Just plain old mechanical parts easy to change and cheap to carry extra parts.
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Old October 20th, 2011, 03:07 PM   #5
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22re are not known to fail. I have had mine run through everything and never have I had a computer problem. I put my in a puddle that made the truck float. hydrolocked that engine and after I fixed the broken engine parts the fuel injection just worked. Only the old school people will tell you that carbs are better.

To answer your question though it is vey easy. just get a carb intake and bolt it on, different distriubutor, carb coil and igniter and you should be set.

I would never do this though. you are gonna loose power and your chances of breaking down will stay the same since 22re efi doesn't fail.

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Old October 20th, 2011, 03:25 PM   #6
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I have a 22r in my truck and hate it, Ive had plenty of 22re's before also and never had a problem. I am swapping my 22r out for a VW TDI in the next couple of weeks
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Old October 20th, 2011, 03:33 PM   #7
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With fuel injection the motor could theoretically run upside down, try that with a carb. If you took the same time studying the system as it takes to do the swap you would be able to "fix it in the woods"
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Old October 20th, 2011, 04:04 PM   #8
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Are they really that good.This is my first yota and not sure of the working of there system.I have had troubles with the ford systems,guess I need to dig in and learn the toyota system.Thanks for the input.
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Old October 20th, 2011, 04:14 PM   #9
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yes they are
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Old October 20th, 2011, 04:36 PM   #10
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They aren't the strongest motor but extremely dependable. My first one wa an '89 XtraCab with a 22RE/5spd. I drove it for 3 months and it started losing power on hills on the highway. Turned out the spark plug elctrodes had about worn down to nothing. I put some new ones in and it ran great. Even better after a K&N. It got @ 24 mpg running 32s too.

Its a fairly simple setup too. Just do a little studying on it and you will see.

A friend of mine sucked water into his 22RE twice (that I know of). He simply pulled the plugs out, shot the water out and it fired up. It ran like crap for a while but ran.

My 2nd 22RE/5spd. was in a '91 4Runner that had 248k on it when I sold it and it ran like a top.
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Old October 20th, 2011, 07:17 PM   #11
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rather than spending your time doing a carb conv. pull it apart and put a new timing chain in it. It is there weakest link. make sure you use steel backed guides, some on ebay are just plastic
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Old October 20th, 2011, 07:19 PM   #12
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I drowned my 22RE 85 4Runner at the mounds, the computer was under water for about an hour pulled it out, somebody helped me out with starting fluid to get it restarted and I drove it home. I thawed it out a couple months later and it still runs fine. I have done next to nothing to the engine over the 90k miles I put on it.
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THe computer can give problems and die if submerged, its not sealed like more modren ones. Its up behind the glove box. Keep a spare computer in a ziploc if you are worried about it.

I only had that happen once in several years of abusing my truck. Stalled it with water up to mid headlight. (My butt was wet in the seat). Pulled it out, it ran, but bucked and misfired. I swapped in the spare computer, ran fine. Once the original one dried out, it also ran fine.

It had previously been a carbed motor, I swapped in the 22RE, made a world of difference. I would not go backwards, the 22RE is quite reliable, and spare parts are cheap to have on hand.

LOL, truck is on 36s, in that pic.
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THe computer can give problems and die if submerged, its not sealed like more modren ones. Its up behind the glove box. Keep a spare computer in a Ziploc if you are worried about it.

I only had that happen once in several years of abusing my truck. Stalled it with water up to mid headlight. (My butt was wet in the seat). Pulled it out, it ran, but bucked and misfired. I swapped in the spare computer, ran fine. Once the original one dried out, it also ran fine.

It had previously been a carbed motor, I swapped in the 22RE, made a world of difference. I would not go backwards, the 22RE is quite reliable, and spare parts are cheap to have on hand.

LOL, truck is on 36s, in that pic.
Its amazing how quick panic mode sets in once your headlights in the water at night.
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That pic was at Grandman's house, we were playing on his course, after guys had tore it up the weekend before. It was funny, because someone laughed when I pulled out a spare ECU.....until it fixed the misfire, then they thought I was a genius.
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Old October 23rd, 2011, 03:19 PM   #16
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carbs have all sorts of problems....
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I have a full propane setup complete with tanks for sale for a 22r engine if you are interested.
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Old January 27th, 2012, 01:46 PM   #18
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22re is reliable lol
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I run a RE and love it



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The conversion is very easy super strait forward, I did it and never had a problem with my weber, super simple, parts are cheap, But i do have a full efi set up i will be swapping my 81 to, Because it just doesnt die out on hills, but I love my weber neve had a problem, BUT the efi does get better gas mpg because it burns the fuel more economical ther both good, but one has more wires and things to go wrong i dnk id have both if it were me
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