95' Genright Crawler project - Page 3 - Great Lakes 4x4. The largest offroad forum in the Midwest

Go Back   Great Lakes 4x4. The largest offroad forum in the Midwest > 4x4 Talk > Rig Builds and Pics
GL4x4 Live! GL4x4 Casino

Rig Builds and Pics Introduce your rig or post a buildup here.

greatlakes4x4.com is the premier Great Lakes 4x4 Forum on the internet. Registered Users do not see the above ads.
Search
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old January 21st, 2012, 12:18 AM   #41
thefixer
Senior Member
 
thefixer's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-14-11
Location: Detroit/A-stan
Posts: 253
iTrader: (2)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Send a message via Skype™ to thefixer
Default

May have found my supercharger.
thefixer is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old January 21st, 2012, 12:23 AM   #42
low900rr
Senior Member
 
low900rr's Avatar
 
Join Date: 04-19-06
Location: Marine City
Posts: 1,132
iTrader: (11)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by thefixer View Post
May have found my supercharger.
What kinda supercharger?

Sent from my ADR6400L using Tapatalk
low900rr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 21st, 2012, 02:16 AM   #43
thefixer
Senior Member
 
thefixer's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-14-11
Location: Detroit/A-stan
Posts: 253
iTrader: (2)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Send a message via Skype™ to thefixer
Default

Magnacharger MP112
thefixer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old February 2nd, 2012, 09:06 AM   #44
thefixer
Senior Member
 
thefixer's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-14-11
Location: Detroit/A-stan
Posts: 253
iTrader: (2)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Send a message via Skype™ to thefixer
Default

A few new pictures and one old one. Getting things measured and cutting some steel then off to paint and powder-coat everything. Anyone wanna show some support on the vendor side and donate something feel free as I have a long list of events this will be heading to once done.








thefixer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old February 2nd, 2012, 09:17 AM   #45
mschaffer66
Senior Member
 
mschaffer66's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-05-05
Location: West Bloomfield, MI
Posts: 9,206
iTrader: (17)
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Default

Most YJ's don't do it for me... that's bad ass though!
mschaffer66 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old February 2nd, 2012, 09:19 AM   #46
kmanxj5011
Senior Member
 
kmanxj5011's Avatar
 
Join Date: 07-17-08
Location: Reed City, Michigan
Posts: 2,098
iTrader: (12)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mschaffer66 View Post
Most YJ's don't do it for me... that's bad ass though!
x2

Looks awesome
kmanxj5011 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old February 2nd, 2012, 09:28 AM   #47
OnlyInMyXJ22
No Money = No Fun
 
OnlyInMyXJ22's Avatar
 
Join Date: 02-08-06
Location: Brighton, MI
Posts: 7,259
iTrader: (61)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Send a message via AIM to OnlyInMyXJ22 Send a message via Skype™ to OnlyInMyXJ22
Default

I'm liking it! Can't wait to see it finished.
__________________
*1999 XJ
*1998 Ram
*2006 Duramax

Quote:
Originally Posted by snocross2xtremes View Post
Mine is just sloppy
OnlyInMyXJ22 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old February 2nd, 2012, 09:31 AM   #48
boggin-machine
Senior Member
 
boggin-machine's Avatar
 
Join Date: 01-11-06
Location: bay city
Posts: 11,640
iTrader: (31)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mschaffer66 View Post
Most YJ's don't do it for me... that's bad ass though!
X3 I really like the thought going into this. Im liking thR front bumper alot.

When I started collecting parts for my build the main objective was to build a 1 ton jeep I can drive as a daily driver if wanted. Ended up getting a set of 42 iroks. I like that fact your sticking to your game plan an went with the mud grapplers. Like a aggressive A/T tire in my mind.

Looking forward to seeing it come togather more!
__________________
08 qcsb Duramax Ltz
02 tj with some parts laying around **for sale**
08 crf 450 with a few goodies
boggin-machine is offline   Reply With Quote
Old February 2nd, 2012, 01:20 PM   #49
Tab
Senior Member
 
Tab's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-05-05
Location: Freeland, mi
Posts: 4,806
iTrader: (29)
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by thefixer View Post
Anyone wanna show some support on the vendor side and donate something feel free as I have a long list of events this will be heading to once done.
You're a clown. You want free parts for whats basically a bolt on jeep because you're "going to take it all over"? Join the club. There's a lot of people who take their jeeps to events or are wheeling almost every weekend.
Tab is offline   Reply With Quote
Old February 2nd, 2012, 01:28 PM   #50
mschaffer66
Senior Member
 
mschaffer66's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-05-05
Location: West Bloomfield, MI
Posts: 9,206
iTrader: (17)
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tab View Post
You're a clown. You want free parts for whats basically a bolt on jeep because you're "going to take it all over"? Join the club. There's a lot of people who take their jeeps to events or are wheeling almost every weekend.
As as it might be you can't blame the guy for tryin.

mschaffer66 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old February 2nd, 2012, 01:48 PM   #51
Tab
Senior Member
 
Tab's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-05-05
Location: Freeland, mi
Posts: 4,806
iTrader: (29)
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Default

I guess not. The thing is that when someone spends a shitload of money they make it out to be that they're the only ones who have and should get free stuff. The exposure he'll get a company is worth about a sticker or two.
Tab is offline   Reply With Quote
Old February 2nd, 2012, 01:58 PM   #52
whiterhino
I'm not old, honest...
 
whiterhino's Avatar
 
Join Date: 03-07-06
Location: Davisburg MI
Posts: 21,053
iTrader: (21)
Mentioned: 12 Post(s)
Default

Yeah right. I must had like ................... zero people........... come up to me while in Utah, South Dakota, KY, TN, IN and Canda in the past couple of years going "WOW, where did you get that?".

Expecting people to give you shit for free just cuz you are going wheeing is kinda silly.
__________________
GLFWDA member since 1979.
Member Southern Michigan Rock Crawlers.
whiterhino is offline   Reply With Quote
Old February 2nd, 2012, 03:43 PM   #53
thefixer
Senior Member
 
thefixer's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-14-11
Location: Detroit/A-stan
Posts: 253
iTrader: (2)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Send a message via Skype™ to thefixer
Default

I was not expecting just putting it out there. I am working on this with the Wounded Warrioir Project as a Former Active Marine Combat Vet mutiple tours and in fact overseas as I write this now. I figured there are many companies getting on board with other projects so why not mine. I did not demand just simply asked no harm no foul as either way this will get done with the money out of my own pocket if nothing else as I feel my cause (informing people of the needs of disabled vetrans who fought for everyones freedom and how they can contribute to the support) deems it necessary. I would ask you keep your thoughts to yourself on this subject as I did not ask for your input regarding this. I have a formal proposal for sponsors and I have actually been pretty successful with gaining them through the hard work of people I have in my corner as well as myself. Thanks for understanding and helping to motivate me both Tab and Whiterhino and I can assure you I am not a clown. Have a great day.
thefixer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old February 2nd, 2012, 04:04 PM   #54
thefixer
Senior Member
 
thefixer's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-14-11
Location: Detroit/A-stan
Posts: 253
iTrader: (2)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Send a message via Skype™ to thefixer
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tab View Post
You're a clown. You want free parts for whats basically a bolt on jeep because you're "going to take it all over"? Join the club. There's a lot of people who take their jeeps to events or are wheeling almost every weekend.
Please explain why I am a clown.

How do you figure it is basically a bolt on vehicle either it is or it is not one. I guess I could make a list of everything that has been done that a bolt would not suffice. With as many posts as you have and the length of time you have been a member here you should be able to see that it is not. You should also be supportive of anyone who supports the same hobbies as you do though I guess there are always going to be those like yourself who are not. I have this same post on Pirate4x4 which I am sure you can agree boasts a much larger and diverse audience and their has not been one negative post.

I inquired and while free would be best I have no issue paying full price.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Tab View Post
I guess not. The thing is that when someone spends a shitload of money they make it out to be that they're the only ones who have and should get free stuff. The exposure he'll get a company is worth about a sticker or two. .

I never made it out that I was the only one who puts time, money, and much more into anything. I also did not say I shouls or deserve anything for free I simply asked.

It amazes me though how you speak. Most people and some owners of companies I have purchased products through have invited me out with them once this is done even for a photoshoot for their company but not you all you have done is criticize and I appreciate that because you give me ven more drive so people like you are good for people like me an needed.
thefixer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old February 2nd, 2012, 05:02 PM   #55
Tab
Senior Member
 
Tab's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-05-05
Location: Freeland, mi
Posts: 4,806
iTrader: (29)
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Default

First of all, I'm a veteran too and have supported the wounded warrior project also.

My opinion of you being a clown comes from a couple things. Mostly your posts about how you got such great pricing from Tony at Genright because you spent so much money with them. Newsflash, 4-6k is probably a pretty normal size order for the type of stuff they offer. And now your post about getting sponsors. You are just the latest in a very long line of guys to get into the sport and think their rig is unique enough in some way that would warrant getting a company to pay you for the honor of having a part on your jeep. Its a completely arrogant thought when there are guys who actually race in some form or another while getting national exposure and cannot get enough sponsorship deals to even pay for their gas to get to the track. But I may be wrong, you may be as cool and normal as can be, but with the way you all of a sudden just showed up on the board and was commenting in a lot of peoples threads, it just seems odd.

If you go on pirate and post up how bad ass you are and how your jeep is super duper cool and think it should garner sponsors because of it, you're in for a real eye opening experience. If you didn't mention the sponsor stuff then you probably won't get any negative feedback. The fact is your jeep is nice and it will turn out to be a great jeep. The parts you're putting on it are top notch (well except the tires ) and you should be plenty proud of it.

The bolt on comment was just a direct reflection of the way it's being built. Here's how it goes nowadays (and not just you). You call genright, order everything, bolt or weld everything on, dominate the world. Its not a bad thing, just that there are so many companies making stuff now it makes more sense to just order kits for everything and save yourself a ton of time. I have a jeep at my house right now that I'm doing the exact same thing with over the next month or so. At sno-fari last weekend there were at least 20 TJ's or JK's that were on coilovers and linked front and rear with 38" plus tires. It's just pretty common now.

So who is building this if you're overseas? Local shop, a friend? I wheel in a group of about 12-16 very well built rigs and would be glad to have you go out with us sometime. I'm far from a wheeling snob. Whiterhino is, but not me.

Last edited by Tab; February 2nd, 2012 at 05:33 PM.
Tab is offline   Reply With Quote
Old February 2nd, 2012, 10:24 PM   #56
thefixer
Senior Member
 
thefixer's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-14-11
Location: Detroit/A-stan
Posts: 253
iTrader: (2)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Send a message via Skype™ to thefixer
Default

You are allowed to have your own opinion and I am allowed to disagree. I did get a good deal from those guys in my opinion but it certainly was not free I am close to double what you consider a pretty regular order even with the discount.

Do not let the word sponsor mean something it is not. It does not mean for free sometimes it just means spend enough money and we can work out some sort of deal and everyone is happy. Maybe I should have explained that better. I again have never said I am better or unique I just have an idea and have proposed them to people worst case scenario they can and have said no and I say thank you for your time and speak well of them regardless.

As far as being arrogant is considered that I am not. There are plenty of things in life i have been passionate about and i have seen others who were less passionate about or not even get full rides and I am not bitter so neither should someone who needs gas and cannot get it that is an ignorant argument.

I still do not agree even with the term "bolt on" but that is just me and i understand what you mean and not only is it time but as well money and this can be said about everyone who buys anything from anywhere and does not build them, themselves. We live in an age now where we purchase everything it is not like little house on the prairie where they build their own house out of the wood from the tree they cut down.

In ending I do nto feel you are stuck up but i do feel you are an ambassador for your hobby and criticizing someone on and open forum instead a more private medium would have been much more accepted. I.E. send me a message stating that I may be going against the grain for someone who is till green behind the ears and watch how that works for once.

I am not sure what branch of the service you were in or what your skill set was. I was a Machine gunner 0331 in the Marines and many times we would be mass punished and criticized openly and it seemed pretty consistent that this would happen on the junior level. Fast forward a couple years and I am a Non Commissoned Officer and when mistake is made you are taken aside in a private manner one on one and this usually is the last time it happens. I know you are firm in your ways just a thought though.

As for your invitation I appreiate it however I cannot abuse the vehicle till after SEMA. Then I can learn the ropes.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tab View Post
First of all, I'm a veteran too and have supported the wounded warrior project also.

My opinion of you being a clown comes from a couple things. Mostly your posts about how you got such great pricing from Tony at Genright because you spent so much money with them. Newsflash, 4-6k is probably a pretty normal size order for the type of stuff they offer. And now your post about getting sponsors. You are just the latest in a very long line of guys to get into the sport and think their rig is unique enough in some way that would warrant getting a company to pay you for the honor of having a part on your jeep. Its a completely arrogant thought when there are guys who actually race in some form or another while getting national exposure and cannot get enough sponsorship deals to even pay for their gas to get to the track. But I may be wrong, you may be as cool and normal as can be, but with the way you all of a sudden just showed up on the board and was commenting in a lot of peoples threads, it just seems odd.

If you go on pirate and post up how bad ass you are and how your jeep is super duper cool and think it should garner sponsors because of it, you're in for a real eye opening experience. If you didn't mention the sponsor stuff then you probably won't get any negative feedback. The fact is your jeep is nice and it will turn out to be a great jeep. The parts you're putting on it are top notch (well except the tires ) and you should be plenty proud of it.

The bolt on comment was just a direct reflection of the way it's being built. Here's how it goes nowadays (and not just you). You call genright, order everything, bolt or weld everything on, dominate the world. Its not a bad thing, just that there are so many companies making stuff now it makes more sense to just order kits for everything and save yourself a ton of time. I have a jeep at my house right now that I'm doing the exact same thing with over the next month or so. At sno-fari last weekend there were at least 20 TJ's or JK's that were on coilovers and linked front and rear with 38" plus tires. It's just pretty common now.

So who is building this if you're overseas? Local shop, a friend? I wheel in a group of about 12-16 very well built rigs and would be glad to have you go out with us sometime. I'm far from a wheeling snob. Whiterhino is, but not me.
thefixer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old February 3rd, 2012, 05:55 AM   #57
whiterhino
I'm not old, honest...
 
whiterhino's Avatar
 
Join Date: 03-07-06
Location: Davisburg MI
Posts: 21,053
iTrader: (21)
Mentioned: 12 Post(s)
Default

First off, thank you for your service. I got out of school shortly after Vietnam, in a time where enlisting was not on the forefront of anyone's mind. It's a regret I will always have that I did not serve my country like so many of you.

I have had the good fortune to own a well built rig, where many people and vendors have supplied me parts and labor. I've paid for all of it. Yes, some friends have helped me out here and there with labor, but the bulk of the purchased items have been just that.... purchased. Some at full price, others at lower prices as some of my friends are also dealers and have helped me out. But they have given me good pricing because of a personal relationship, not that I am a billboard for them.

I have also had the good fortune of traveling to many of the big name wheeling spots around the country and wheeled some of the best locations. With that, I have had many people look at my jeep, ask questions and get into discussions, just as I have with their jeeps. But to be honest, no one comes up with oooohs and aaahs over my jeep. Most will look at it and say things like "what t-case you running?". Atlas 3.8. "Cool". NEVER, NEVER, NEVER has anyone said "hey, cool, where did you buy it?". Why? Because they are already familiar with the name brand and can read any mag & see advertisements for the product. And I can use that same scenario all across the board on all my modifications. What is more likely to happen is the LOCAL GUYS will say "did you get it from IRONMAN?", or some other name that they already know.

To me, suggesting or even subtly hinting that you should get preferential treatment because you will be taking it to shows mimics 50% of every build thread on this site. Not that 50% of the people are asking for handouts, but rather, that they "wish" they could get freebie or discounts because most of them go places where others congregate.

Like Tab said, your jeep will be nice and I congratulate your efforts. I also congratulate you for intending to use it for a good cause. With that, I also think that you could respect the vendors on this site that most are barely getting by in a very poor market and they have very low markups to be competitive.

Good luck with your build,
Jim
__________________
GLFWDA member since 1979.
Member Southern Michigan Rock Crawlers.

Last edited by whiterhino; February 3rd, 2012 at 05:58 AM.
whiterhino is offline   Reply With Quote
Old February 3rd, 2012, 06:48 AM   #58
mschaffer66
Senior Member
 
mschaffer66's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-05-05
Location: West Bloomfield, MI
Posts: 9,206
iTrader: (17)
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by thefixer View Post
We live in an age now where we purchase everything it is not like little house on the prairie where they build their own house out of the wood from the tree they cut down.
Honestly it wasn't that long ago that's how all of this custom Jeep stuff. If you wanted anything custom beyond stainless hood hinges from JC Whitney you had to have your own welder, bender, mini-fab shop, and a hell of a lot of knowledge to get it done. I think now, like Tab is saying, weld on and bolt on have become synonymous because it basically comes down to all of the engineering has been done and you just order it and put it in place.

Quote:
Originally Posted by whiterhino View Post
I got out of school shortly after WWI, in a time where enlisting was not on the forefront of anyone's mind.
Fixed.

To me a lot can be learned by listening to what both Tab and whiterhino are telling you. You won't find many more knowledgeable no-BS people than those two.
mschaffer66 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old February 3rd, 2012, 07:57 AM   #59
ScOoTeR
hoo dat. wat.
 
ScOoTeR's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-09-05
Location: Howell
Posts: 21,481
iTrader: (35)
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Default

LOL, he was just putting feelers out there for price breaks. You guise read too much into this after Kristavseveryone.


As far as helping out - I may be interested in providing custom calibration work for whatever powertrain you decide on. Shoot me a pm for details.
__________________
@clarkstoncracker
ScOoTeR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old February 3rd, 2012, 08:07 AM   #60
low900rr
Senior Member
 
low900rr's Avatar
 
Join Date: 04-19-06
Location: Marine City
Posts: 1,132
iTrader: (11)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ScOoTeR View Post
LOL, he was just putting feelers out there for price breaks. You guise read too much into this after Kristavseveryone.


As far as helping out - I may be interested in providing custom calibration work for whatever powertrain you decide on. Shoot me a pm for details.
I was thinking the same the thing. Matts a cool dude scooter. Speaking of custom calibration, still interested in you checking out this cts-v.

Sent from my ADR6400L using Tapatalk
low900rr is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply
Great Lakes 4x4. The largest offroad forum in the Midwest > 4x4 Talk > Rig Builds and Pics

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:22 AM.


Powered by: vBulletin, Copyright 2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2014 DragonByte Technologies Ltd. Runs best on HiVelocity Hosting.
Page generated in 0.33914 seconds with 80 queries