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Old December 21st, 2011, 07:43 AM   #1
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Default FJ40 getting some much needed up-grades!

Going with some one tons under the 40. It will go slow, but hope to have it done sometime in 2012. I just purchased a Dana 60 front and a 14 bolt FF rear. Toy axles are out and now the real work begins. Going to link the front with some coil springs, and SOA the rear for now with plans later for a 4-link and coil springs. Would like some coil overs but they do no fit the budget for now. The rest will work it self out as the project goes along.

What I want and where I am
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Old December 21st, 2011, 08:23 AM   #2
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I've got a serious thing for FJ40s, so your's is looking particularly awesome. I can't wait to see the finished product. Looks good so far, and sounds like you have a good plan for it.
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Old December 21st, 2011, 06:03 PM   #3
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If it ends up looking like a CR01 lets hope it doesn't grenade like one too.
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Old December 21st, 2011, 09:02 PM   #4
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why not go opposite. leaf the front and link the rear. gets rid of the axle wrap problem and it will be more stable.
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Old December 22nd, 2011, 10:47 AM   #5
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I have trouble going over obstacles with the front axle because of the leaf springs, the rear will get linked just not right away.
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Old December 22nd, 2011, 03:46 PM   #6
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what springs are you running up front. i ran stock cruiser springs on my 1st 40 with them flipped. i had zero approach angle with 42s.
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Old December 23rd, 2011, 09:04 AM   #7
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done yet john? mike said he is not going to do all the work on this. so turn the tv off.
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Old December 23rd, 2011, 04:22 PM   #8
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what springs are you running up front. i ran stock cruiser springs on my 1st 40 with them flipped. i had zero approach angle with 42s.
I was running stock leafs, SUA. With a link suspension I will have no problem with obstacles. A few reasons to link the front first are; the rear will be easy and I can do that this summer over a weekend after saving up some more $$. I will only have to set the steering up once as well as that will save me $$. I'm not that far yet but that's the plan for now.

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done yet john? mike said he is not going to do all the work on this. so turn the tv off.
Pick one of the following; soon, almost, not yet, and I'll let you know, or my favorite one,
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Old December 28th, 2011, 10:16 PM   #9
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Shaved the 14 bolt this evening, have some family holiday cheer over the next few days be back at it in the new year. Happy New Year!
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Old January 2nd, 2012, 09:34 PM   #10
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Welded the spider gears today, cleaned the housing up. Will be cutting the plate for the bottom and welding it up tomorrow.
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I'll be keeping the Toyota transfer case and don't want the passenger to center angle, so I am cutting 6" out of the 14 bolt tube on the passenger side. This makes my pinion line up with the transfer case, maybe not perfect, but it is really close now. I will be using the stock short shafts on both sides. My wms to wms will be 61", which is 4" wider than the Toyota axles I was using and well 6" less than a normal 14 bolt.
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Old January 15th, 2012, 08:29 AM   #12
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lookin good john. maybe i will do the same
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Old January 15th, 2012, 09:11 AM   #13
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cool idea with offset 14 bolt
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Old January 16th, 2012, 04:46 PM   #14
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cool idea with offset 14 bolt
Thanks, I kept dreading the thought of being so wide.

After narrowing the 14 bolt with success, I will be attempting the Dana 60 this coming weekend. Not sure how much I will take out of that axle, with the rear at 61" I was think of taking 5" out of the front to put it at 62.5". Guys have told me that you don't want to run your same tracks and others say you do, any thoughts on this?

I will also be filling in two of the 8 lugs on my hubs and re-drilling to make my hubs 6 lug so I can run my aluminum rims, really like them a lot. I will machine the hubs down a bit, so the rims will fit. This can be done on the front Dana 60 as well as the 14 bolt rear. I will have to have the outer part of the 14 bolt shaft machined down too. The same for the drive flange in the front. Along with this will require a smaller head on the axle bolts and the drive flange bolts. Hoping this is all done by the end of the month. The only down side I see is having a custom axle shaft made for the long side of the Dana 60, looking to go to Rock solid to have that done, most likely two made so I have a spare. Will post more after said above is complete.

Has anyone machine downed the hubs like I am planning, if so any problems, looking for some insight.
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Old January 16th, 2012, 06:07 PM   #15
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seems like alot of work just for some rims. but ive never machined down hubs and rims before.

do you plan on still racing the modified class at twisted or are they not running the races anymore? ill be looking forward to racing another fj.
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Not really much work, really don't have much time, but definitely more time than $$ at the moment, so i figure might as well try some different things that only take time and then I can keep my rims and Inner Airlocks.

Not going to do the trail master challenge, it was fun but it really takes a toll on a vehicle, most likely the extreme truck challenge or rock challenge. I filmed them all and really like them. First I'll have to finish this project or at least get close.
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Old January 22nd, 2012, 10:08 AM   #17
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Hubs are machined down, 14 bolt is all back together and everything fits, axle shafts, my 6 lug rims fit over the hubs (next weekend hope to drill out the 6 lug pattern), time to put it under the cruiser.
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Ordered my heims and brackets from Jim at EORP (Extreme Off Road Parts). Also ordered caliper brackets for the 14 bolt from him. Now things are starting to get fun. He's going to drop off the parts on his way to the KOH next week.

Still lots of work to do before I get to use those parts. Rear axle is going to be moved back so I guess I can cut more off the rear quarter panels. Hoping to drill the 6 lug pattern in the hubs and machine down the shafts as well as the front hubs and drive flanges this weekend. Now I need to find some allen bolts so the rims will slide off with out having to take the axle bolts or drive flange bolts off.

Really enjoying this project right now. No deadlines = No stress. I'm sure that will change though.
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Started on the front D60 axle, took apart the knuckles and found some brown looking mustard in side. Shortened the axle and now just have to cut the tube from inside the C. One thing that stood out was the difference in tube wall thickness from a 14 bolt vs. front D60. 14 bolt tube on top, D60 on the bottom.

Where can I find a reasonably priced kingpin rebuild kit? And do/should I replace everything? What really doesn't matter?
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Old January 28th, 2012, 11:23 PM   #20
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This will all be worth it ....you'll be able to beat on it with some confidence like other rigs....well almost all other rigs
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