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Old December 19th, 2011, 11:18 AM   #21
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We've learned quite a bit about XJs over the past 18 months, as we're rebuilding a '93 2-dr. for my daughter (build thread
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They're cool vehicles. I especially like the 2-doors. If you look seriously at the ones that you linked on craigslist, know that Sherman Auto Parts (a Michigan-based company) makes reasonably-priced stamped floor pan replacements, and I know they have a dealer in Cedar Springs (translation = no shipping charges). We have one for the passenger side of my daughter's Jeep, and fit seems to be pretty nice.

Good luck. Oh...you need to spend a BUNCH of time on naxja.org. Tons of information there.

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An XJ is an excellent platform for someone wanting a good daily driver with the possibility of turning it into a fun machine.
It has a strong motor with solid low end torque, a number of lift options and plenty of room for passengers and storage.

The motor is excellent. If treated properly, it can last for well over 300,000 miles.
It is strong. I have seen people roll their XJ, turn it back on all 4s, start it up and keep moving like nothing happened. I personally hydro-locked one of mine, got a tow out of the swamp, took out the sparks, squirted the water out, put the sparks back in, and drove it out. That speaks volumes.
Usually over 100,000 is ok. A lot of them leak a little oil after that but it is not a huge problem. I had one with around 175,000 that leaked a little oil when I bought it . never stopped leaking but it lasted me another 100,000 and was still running solid when I got rid of it.

I'm now the proud owner of my 5th XJ, and I have to express the thoughts of the others who have given the good advice of finding and purchasing an XJ with NO LIFT.
A lift suggests the possibility of off-road adventuring, which could mean hard use and abuse... abuse that could cause MANY problems for you down the road.
If you are considering putting a lift on and you aren't sure about the difficulties of it, be not afraid! It is easy to put on a small, 1"-3" lift with only minor mechanical abilities.
The only downside with lifting it is that it has no actual frame, so when you want to go to bigger tires, you are confined to suspension modifications and/or some sheet metal cutting. However, there are still MANY great options to choose from when going bigger. This should be able to outweigh the cons of the lack of an actual frame.

It has plenty of room and seating. someone with a family or someone who likes to take a group of friends along for the ride can do so, and the extra room in back makes it easy to still go grocery shopping, even with a full occupancy.
With the fold down rear seat, you can have even more room for lugging around bigger items. I've personally used that option many times to make a nice bed for myself while out on the trails over night.

All in all, the XJ is an excellent option for someone wanting a reliable, solid running vehicle with many lift possibilities and plenty of room. The XJ is a quality inexpensive starter 4x4 with the ability to upgrade and modify to the heart's content.
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I've had 2 89s and a 97, girlfriend has a 96. 89 was my first vehicle.
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We've learned quite a bit about XJs over the past 18 months, as we're rebuilding a '93 2-dr. for my daughter (build thread HERE; she's also in Jp Magazine this month). We have owned several '92-96 XJ parts vehicles now, and I also daily-drove a '99 XJ 2-dr. for a winter.

They're cool vehicles. I especially like the 2-doors. If you look seriously at the ones that you linked on craigslist, know that Sherman Auto Parts (a Michigan-based company) makes reasonably-priced stamped floor pan replacements, and I know they have a dealer in Cedar Springs (translation = no shipping charges). We have one for the passenger side of my daughter's Jeep, and fit seems to be pretty nice.

Good luck. Oh...you need to spend a BUNCH of time on naxja.org. Tons of information there.

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Thanks for the links and tips... definatley cool that you and your daughter are building that...about to check out naxja.com
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An XJ is an excellent platform for someone wanting a good daily driver with the possibility of turning it into a fun machine.
It has a strong motor with solid low end torque, a number of lift options and plenty of room for passengers and storage.

The motor is excellent. If treated properly, it can last for well over 300,000 miles.
It is strong. I have seen people roll their XJ, turn it back on all 4s, start it up and keep moving like nothing happened. I personally hydro-locked one of mine, got a tow out of the swamp, took out the sparks, squirted the water out, put the sparks back in, and drove it out. That speaks volumes.
Usually over 100,000 is ok. A lot of them leak a little oil after that but it is not a huge problem. I had one with around 175,000 that leaked a little oil when I bought it . never stopped leaking but it lasted me another 100,000 and was still running solid when I got rid of it.


I'm now the proud owner of my 5th XJ, and I have to express the thoughts of the others who have given the good advice of finding and purchasing an XJ with NO LIFT.
A lift suggests the possibility of off-road adventuring, which could mean hard use and abuse... abuse that could cause MANY problems for you down the road.
If you are considering putting a lift on and you aren't sure about the difficulties of it, be not afraid! It is easy to put on a small, 1"-3" lift with only minor mechanical abilities.
The only downside with lifting it is that it has no actual frame, so when you want to go to bigger tires, you are confined to suspension modifications and/or some sheet metal cutting. However, there are still MANY great options to choose from when going bigger. This should be able to outweigh the cons of the lack of an actual frame.

It has plenty of room and seating. someone with a family or someone who likes to take a group of friends along for the ride can do so, and the extra room in back makes it easy to still go grocery shopping, even with a full occupancy.
With the fold down rear seat, you can have even more room for lugging around bigger items. I've personally used that option many times to make a nice bed for myself while out on the trails over night.

All in all, the XJ is an excellent option for someone wanting a reliable, solid running vehicle with many lift possibilities and plenty of room. The XJ is a quality inexpensive starter 4x4 with the ability to upgrade and modify to the heart's content.
You just summed up all the reasons i want one... will definatley want to both build it up and dd it
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Cherokeeforum.com is good too. But they really stress the " family friendly" thing. I have 7k posts there and 5 infractions... lol put "89Laredo" as a referrer If you join.
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Cherokeeforum.com is good too. But they really stress the " family friendly" thing. I have 7k posts there and 5 infractions... lol put "89Laredo" as a referrer If you join.
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I have a 2000 Xj... It doesnt have a motor in it because the 0331 head cracked, So i swapped a new head on. 2 weeks later a lifter collapsed. So now its getting a motor from a 98. If i bought another one I would buy a 97 or 98. Personally i think the older AMC style interior is old and ugly looking. 99.5-01 came with the 0331 head so stay away from those.
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I have a 2000 Xj... It doesnt have a motor in it because the 0331 head cracked, So i swapped a new head on. 2 weeks later a lifter collapsed. So now its getting a motor from a 98. If i bought another one I would buy a 97 or 98. Personally i think the older AMC style interior is old and ugly looking. 99.5-01 came with the 0331 head so stay away from those.
Wow, that sucks... good luck with that and thanks for the info
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there are no "bad year" XJ's
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Renix XJ owners may argue that.

WantaBronco - You'll want to stick with '91-newer for the best flexibility, but all the other feedback already suggests this.
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Renix XJ owners may argue that.

WantaBronco - You'll want to stick with '91-newer for the best flexibility, but all the other feedback already suggests this.
i always forget about the renix efi.

you're looking from 91-01

i'd still buy a pre 91 if the body was solid, i've got an LT1 that is searching for a new home :)
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I absolutely love my renix, and would take one over a 97+...
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If your budget is 3k, stay under. For the most part, they're pretty trouble free vehicles (or the problems are of my doing...but thats another topic). The best part, at least for me is they're really pretty easy to work on, at least once you figure out how to deal with rust. Like others said, check for excessive rust, i'd take a look at the air filter for oil (though that seems more like a problem in 87-90 vintage). check oil/tranny levels for clues of maintenance. good luck
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my 87 flat out kicks butt for an old throw together jeep.

I know, the D30 is a CAD axle but mine never did me wrong and the D35 is non c-clip. Both have been welded for years and have never given me fits.

can you say no rev limiter pulling out Motox168 last Jan 2011 at the Badlands occasionally hitting 7K and laughing about it:


we just beat on it and it comes back for more. I know it ain't pretty but it's a blast to have on a trail ride
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my 87 flat out kicks butt for an old throw together jeep.

I know, the D30 is a CAD axle but mine never did me wrong and the D35 is non c-clip. Both have been welded for years and have never given me fits
Yeah... heres another question.. what axle do i want... there seems to be alot
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Yeah... heres another question.. what axle do i want... there seems to be alot
The stock axles from a '97-98 will be good for you. High-pinion Dana 30 with the larger U-joints, and a 29-spline 8.25 rear axle.

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The stock axles from a '97-98 will be good for you. High-pinion Dana 30 with the larger U-joints, and a 29-spline 8.25 rear axle.

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Alirght... whats the benefits of anything else? Just strength?
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Alirght... whats the benefits of anything else? Just strength?
Correct. Stock axles should work fine up to 35"-ish tires, per the experts here on the interweb.

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