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Old December 29th, 2011, 08:12 AM   #61
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Did I overlook a water heater?
Oh it's there and it gets hottttttt! I am pretty excited about that!
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Old December 30th, 2011, 05:56 AM   #62
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Nice start

You may want to get a trap on that sink.

I'm not sure on your holding tank arranagement, single-dual / black/gray but i think you will be getting some odors coming out.

And worse when moving.

Check out the hepvo valve as an alternative to a “P” trap. I'm not sure I like them but they negate the need for a vacuum
breaker vent.

http://www.hepvo.com/

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Old December 30th, 2011, 12:02 PM   #63
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Nice start

You may want to get a trap on that sink.

I'm not sure on your holding tank arranagement, single-dual / black/gray but i think you will be getting some odors coming out.

And worse when moving.

Check out the hepvo valve as an alternative to a “P” trap. I'm not sure I like them but they negate the need for a vacuum
breaker vent.

http://www.hepvo.com/
x2....put a trap in it.

Nice work....in progress...do you have room for another water tank on the other side? Are you concerned about the weight of the water all on one side?

Just for comparison, my camper holds 36gal fresh, 30 gray, 30 black, on a 3-day rustic camp with myself and two females (that's how I roll) I ended up running out of water during my shower on the last day...had to crack the gray water drain before I showered because it was full and the shower drain started to slow.

....with 73 gallons you should be able to sell 5 minute showers at KOH to help pay the fuel bill.
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Old December 30th, 2011, 01:32 PM   #64
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x2....put a trap in it.
are the odors from the gray water (sink and shower) really going to be that bad? I have no way of putting a trap on the shower.
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Nice work....in progress...do you have room for another water tank on the other side? Yes, but I want to put other stuff over there. Are you concerned about the weight of the water all on one side?
nope, 500 lbs spread throught the whole corner shouldn't be an issue at all.
Just for comparison, my camper holds 36gal fresh, 30 gray, 30 black, on a 3-day rustic camp with myself and two females (that's how I roll) I ended up running out of water during my shower on the last day...had to crack the gray water drain before I showered because it was full and the shower drain started to slow.

....with 73 gallons you should be able to sell 5 minute showers at KOH to help pay the fuel bill. I'm hoping to only have to fill once on the lakebed (and once right before arrival). The valve on the shower head is obviously to help save water even more.
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Old December 30th, 2011, 01:37 PM   #65
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I'm not sure on your holding tank arranagement, single-dual / black/gray but i think you will be getting some odors coming out.
sink and shower drain to the dedicated gray water. Toilet to the black water, which is external vented.
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Old December 30th, 2011, 01:53 PM   #66
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well, it was a nice truck. Your attempt at a camper/hauler is leaving a lot to be desired. The interior of this thing reminds me of the "backwoods" build on pirate. just because you can doesn't mean you should
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Its a build thread. go fukc a horse. if you don't like criticism don't post.
constructive criticism can be helpful. your post above reeks of jealousy more than anything.


as for the can/should - it's very feasible that his total cost is less than a reasonably priced old F350 and big arsed trailer set up to boot.

bidcorp has some day-cab dual rear axle box trucks up currently with starting bids around $4k - one only has 19k miles on it...

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Old December 30th, 2011, 03:01 PM   #67
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Nice build, I was thinking of the same thing some day
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Old December 30th, 2011, 09:07 PM   #68
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We hold something like 70 gallons of fresh water & 40 or so each in the gray and black. (can't remember exact numbers at the moment) If the wife and I are conservative, we are good for about 4 days self contained.
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We hold something like 70 gallons of fresh water & 40 or so each in the gray and black. (can't remember exact numbers at the moment) If the wife and I are conservative, we are good for about 4 days self contained.
It will just be the two of us from Friday-Wednesday afternoon, we should use too much water just the two of us. Then Wednesday afternoon 4 more people from our 'party' are arriving. We will have to have enough water by the end of the week since we're setting a rule stating that everyone must shower on Friday evening/Saturday morning before departing for the straight drive home...and wear a fresh pair of clothes.
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Old January 3rd, 2012, 02:37 PM   #70
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are the odors from the gray water (sink and shower) really going to be that bad? I have no way of putting a trap on the shower.
Take a look at the Hepvo valve it can be used horizontal or vertical. It replaces the trap assembly.
Uses / needs very little space. About the same size as the drain pipe.
In the case of the sink drain in the photo it could be spliced into the existing drain shown.


You have no vent on the gray tank? If this is right you need to work that out before installing traps.

You are going to get odors. How much, that’s kind of subjective. And what you put down there and how long and ambient temps etc. etc. The separate black tank is good news for this. Think of a stagnate kitchen sink.

I have been designing RV's since the mid 70's (= me 50+ lmao), PM or post up whatever questions- plumbing, electrical, interior, sources, etc - anything. I will help as much as you would like.

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Old January 3rd, 2012, 02:46 PM   #71
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You are going to get odors. How much, that’s kind of subjective. And what you put down there and how long and ambient temps etc. etc. The separate black tank is good news for this. Think of a stagnate kitchen sink.
x2. Grey water can get pretty damn skanky. You gotta figure its a melting pot of your sweaty, filth with some nasty food particle dish water thrown in. Yuck...lol.
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It will get bad. Also don't put your vent tube close to a roof vent.
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Old January 3rd, 2012, 07:08 PM   #73
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awsome!!! cool way to make the trip wheeling almost as much fun as wheeling. I have a work truck that i might convert to a toy hauler. lots of good ideas, i will be watching
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HUGE thanks to Ryan "the diesel freak" from Gaylord.

The toter now has a 295 hp, 860 ft lb calibration (started with 211 hp 605 ft lb)

If anyone needs more power out of their Cat or Cummins, he's worth the drive.
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HUGE thanks to Ryan "the diesel freak" from Gaylord.

The toter now has a 295 hp, 860 ft lb calibration (started with 211 hp 605 ft lb)

If anyone needs more power out of their Cat or Cummins, he's worth the drive.
Do they add any mileage? My father has an 07 350 horse in his motorhome.
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HUGE thanks to Ryan "the diesel freak" from Gaylord.

The toter now has a 295 hp, 860 ft lb calibration (started with 211 hp 605 ft lb)

If anyone needs more power out of their Cat or Cummins, he's worth the drive.
How does the new tune feel?
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Do they add any mileage? My father has an 07 350 horse in his motorhome.
Probably no increase in mileage. He did say I probably wouldn't notice a decrease though.

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How does the new tune feel?
haven't had everything loadedup, but I didn't have to take it out of OD the whole way home at 65 mph, including a couple long grades around West Branch and the Z bridge. I wouldn't have been able to say that before.
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haven't had everything loadedup, but I didn't have to take it out of OD the whole way home at 65 mph, including a couple long grades around West Branch and the Z bridge. I wouldn't have been able to say that before.
Shouldn't that gain you some MPG?

I know when my JK starts dropping out of OD the fuel economy goes right to shit.
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Shouldn't that gain you some MPG?

I know when my JK starts dropping out of OD the fuel economy goes right to shit.
maybe, but now I put my foot in it a little harder leaving stop lights and passing, so there goes my savings haha
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