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Old December 6th, 2011, 09:24 PM   #1
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WJ 4bt on Tons Build

Well...the time is here!

The plan- Build a daily driver WJ that will double as a rock solid off road Jeep. Keep as many creature comforts as reasonable (A/C included). Run 35-40" tires with LIBERAL trimming and mini-boatsides. Eventually add cage...and keep COG as low as possible.

What I have so far-
'00 WJ Limited with a blown 4.0 I just scored for $500
A brand new Cummins 4BT (currently with a COAN TH400 2wd, for sale)
Dana 60 rear- set up for 4 links, spooled 4.88's and 35spl. cromo's, disc brakes.
Dana 60 front- set up for 4 links...needs gears and locker.
Various links and heims for 4 link front and rear.
18" Coilovers but currently thinking to stick with factory style coils
9,500# winch
and a bunch of misc. stuff.
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Old December 6th, 2011, 09:27 PM   #2
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Old December 6th, 2011, 09:29 PM   #3
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freakin epic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ill be keeping tabs on this
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Old December 6th, 2011, 09:45 PM   #4
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Well...the time is here!

The plan- Build a daily driver WJ that will double as a rock solid off road Jeep. Keep as many creature comforts as reasonable (A/C included). Run 35-40" tires with LIBERAL trimming and mini-boatsides. Eventually add cage...

What I have so far-
'00 WJ Limited with a blown 4.0 I just scored for $500
A brand new Cummins 4BT (currently with a COAN TH400 2wd, for sale)
Dana 60 rear- set up for 4 links, spooled 4.88's and 35spl. cromo's, disc brakes.
Dana 60 front- set up for 4 links...needs gears and locker.
Various links and heims for 4 link front and rear.
18" Coilovers but currently thinking to stick with factory style coils
9,500# winch
and a bunch of misc. stuff.
Epic build! However why 18" coilovers? Id really rethink it and go 12" or 14" travel as they will provide you with all the travel you could possibly need. Look into 2.5 coilovers or ORI air struts.
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Old December 6th, 2011, 09:56 PM   #5
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18" on that rig would make it retarded tall or some huge shock sticking through the hood.
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Old December 6th, 2011, 10:04 PM   #6
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18" on that rig would make it retarded tall or some huge shock sticking through the hood.
Agreed. I HAVE them...like I said, I am thinking to go with std. coil and shock set up. Currently trying to sell them or trade for some tires/wheels.
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Old December 6th, 2011, 10:47 PM   #7
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Old December 7th, 2011, 05:28 AM   #8
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Good ideas but if you want it to be a rock solid daily driver put a locker in the back instead of a spool. Too hard on tires and tougher to maneuver in parking lots.
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Old December 7th, 2011, 07:30 AM   #9
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Old December 7th, 2011, 07:32 AM   #10
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Good ideas but if you want it to be a rock solid daily driver put a locker in the back instead of a spool. Too hard on tires and tougher to maneuver in parking lots.

I barely noticed the spool in the back of my yj, what I noticed was when I installed the locker up front.

I can't see tire wear being all that different from a locker to a spool either really.
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Old December 7th, 2011, 07:54 AM   #11
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Tire wear between a locker and spool is huge over the long run. A good locker will allow the tires to operate as an open dif. Turning tight in places like parking lots do a lot of damage and tend to drag a tire sideways that rounds off the lugs. I also think a spool is harder on the rear suspension components. It became really apparent to me when I went to stickies. I can feel the whole rig binding up and then letting loose when doing tight turns on pavement. Do you notice it from a driving perspective with DOT tires? No, a spool is easy to get used to.
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Old December 7th, 2011, 08:06 AM   #12
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I did not notice mine even when parking. I didn't have stickies, I had 36 iroks.

I thought I would have noticed a lot more bind, and I didn't at all. Nor did I notice much tire wear, but it was not a DD, and I only put a few thousand miles on the tires.

I did notice a big change when I assploded an aussie locker and the front end turned spooled.
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Old December 7th, 2011, 08:12 AM   #13
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I noticed my spooled rear a lot at the mall... And my trutrac in the front was set so tight I would open a lockout. I think my truck was over built for the mall.
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Old December 7th, 2011, 08:56 AM   #14
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Good ideas but if you want it to be a rock solid daily driver put a locker in the back instead of a spool. Too hard on tires and tougher to maneuver in parking lots.
For one...the rear end is from an earlier buggy build...so it cost nothing.
Secondly...I have had a number of daily drivers with welded or spooled rears and have never been bothered by it. I would say tires wear a tiny bit faster...but I could care less about that as they well need to be replaced LONG before I could "wear them out" on the street. Rock rash is a beautifull thing!

Also, I find the worst part about a spooled rear is winter driving on a short wheelbase rig in 2wd...keeping a straight line is a challenge...then again...I do love me a challenge
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Old December 7th, 2011, 08:58 AM   #15
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I think my truck was over built for the mall.
Is there such a thing? That was my kids favorite place to go with my last build...a big block Ramcharger with full headers and dual chamber Flowmasters

OVERBUILT...ha! Thats my goal 100% of the time
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Old December 7th, 2011, 10:39 AM   #16
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Epic build! However why 18" coilovers? Id really rethink it and go 12" or 14" travel as they will provide you with all the travel you could possibly need. Look into 2.5 coilovers or ORI air struts.
x2. Don't learn from this mistake after the fact. Its a pain in the ass selling "odd" sized shocks.

Sounds like a pretty cool setup though. Hopefully we see this through to reality.
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Old December 7th, 2011, 10:41 AM   #17
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Sounds like a pretty cool setup though. Hopefully we see this through to reality.
Going out to the garage now to start pulling the motor...at least until my next appt is ready.
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Old December 7th, 2011, 01:24 PM   #18
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Old December 7th, 2011, 02:14 PM   #19
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Old December 7th, 2011, 02:22 PM   #20
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Getting started

Got started on the tear down. Another hour and I should have the engine out...but that is gonna be done at my shop, not in the garage at home.

Now I am seriously debating narrowing the front and putting some different headlights in...probably won't...just awfully tempting....maybe later.

The last picture is of the best investment you can make in tools...electric impacts. No more tripping over hoses. I highly recommend the Snap On impacts...2 now and they have been great!

Thinking that I will leave all the factory wiring in this one...kinda like the dual climate control!
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