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Old June 25th, 2010, 05:17 AM   #1
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Default KJ Kyle's "phase one" CJ7 build.

this isn't going to be much of a build thread. I leave for Navy basic training July 5th so I just figured I would fill ya'll in on what I did this year. This is my first build, when I started I knew nothing about 4 wheel drive. I actually couldn't even drive it right away because I couldn't drive a manual trans

so here she is on day 1. it has a 350 / sm465 / np205. 5" lift, new frame, some clapped out 35''s, and stock narrow tracks and all the bling bling



I drove it around the beach and what not for the summer, and the first day of fall it went into the garage for disassembly. right now the specs are:

1981 CJ7, 350/sm465/np205. 44/60. 106" wb. 37"s

full width chevy 44 front, with outboarded RE 1444 spring overs. bilstein 5150s, ballistic high steer arms, moog ball joints, spicer 760x joints, 4.10 gears, aussie locker, poison spyder 'bombshell', rancho stabilizer.

the steering starts with an AGR gear box, and astro van pitman arm. I used a combination of 1 ton tie rod ends, and heims. I had Pikes offroad tap some .250 DOM for a drag link and tie rod.

I stretched the front end forward ~6" and ran the shackles on the front of the bumper. my intentions were to keep the rig as low as possible, with a 106" wheel base.

The rear axle is a dana 60. It has the factory limited slip in it for the moment, and a disc brake conversion. also used ballistic Truss, and cover.

The rear suspension is a double triangulated 4 link stretched 5". I used 2" x .250 lowers, 1.5" x .120 uppers. bushings on the frame side, heims on the axle. I'm using stock TJ coils and bilstein 5150s

For the brakes, I am running a 1980 corvette master cylinder (it bolted in with zero modifications) a wilwood adjustable proportioning valve, and half ton calipers front a rear.

also has genright stretch corner gaurds, H2 rims wrapped in 37" goodyear MT/R kevlars tube fenders, ORO flush mount lights.


I'm kicking around the idea of moving the bumper in flush with the body, and I'll have a 90* departure angle






just a little flex. my engine hoist was about to fall over


still to finish is a rocker guards, mount up the warn winch, driveshafts, finishing the tube fenders, plumbing brakes, and paint.

she's still a little tall for my liking, but I only have 4" of uptravel. hopefully phase 2 will start next spring. I am hoping to get stationed at whidbey Island NAS in Washington. then I plan on coil overs front and rear, flat belly skid, lomax 300 and a full cage / harnesses, 35 spl. detroit, RCVs blah blah blah

better pictures to come...

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Old June 25th, 2010, 06:02 AM   #2
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Looks good
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Old June 25th, 2010, 06:06 AM   #3
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Nice looking build and good luck with the Navy. If you get stationed up in WA have fun. There is so much wheeling up there. I actually miss it alot. Just be prepared to tow that or put some huge flairs and mud flaps on it because the cops up there will pull you over the second you hit the road.
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Old June 25th, 2010, 06:08 AM   #4
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Nice looking build and good luck with the Navy. If you get stationed up in WA have fun. There is so much wheeling up there. I actually miss it alot. Just be prepared to tow that or put some huge flairs and mud flaps on it because the cops up there will pull you over the second you hit the road.
definatly getting trailered. haha
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Old July 1st, 2010, 07:33 PM   #5
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got my jaz fuel cell, and plumbed the lines. now I just need to mount it.



I found a sway bar link in the bottom drawer so I used the bushings to isolate the cell to prevent cracking.



also had mr. crawl bend me up some shock hoops, and got the tabs welded in.





and I got a woody



just a picture of the truss, and coil buckets...

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Old July 4th, 2010, 01:41 PM   #6
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looks good man keep on building
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Old July 4th, 2010, 02:05 PM   #7
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damn thats one hell of a first build, nice work, and like the other guy said, good luck in the navy, keep posting new pics when you get them
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Old July 4th, 2010, 02:56 PM   #8
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Read the directions on the tag tied to those tabs. "NOT FOR MOUNTING" They will break, you need straps.

Looks good, better start shopping for front axles!
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Old July 4th, 2010, 02:59 PM   #9
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Ohh, and you should adress the fuel pickup provisions in that tank also. You will have 1/4 tank of fuel and be out of gas on the slightest angle. It's just a hose hanging in the center of the tank.
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i ran an aluminum tank like that for years, and i used those mounting tabs, and i didnt even use rubber in between them and never had a problem . why would they spend the time welding on those tabs if they were not ment for mounting?
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Their was no tag on the tabs? Also the cell has foam it
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Old July 4th, 2010, 08:45 PM   #12
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Looks good!
Very cool build
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Old July 4th, 2010, 08:56 PM   #13
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wow thats one of the koolest axle truss ive seen! good build!
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Old July 4th, 2010, 10:49 PM   #14
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i ran an aluminum tank like that for years, and i used those mounting tabs, and i didnt even use rubber in between them and never had a problem.
Consider yourself lucky!

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why would they spend the time welding on those tabs if they were not ment for mounting?
Good question, people that have broken them have wondered that for years. On my tag it said they were for locating purposes only. My only guess is that they weld them on there for production/processing purposes.

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Foam cuts down on the amount of slosh, it doesnt act like a trap to keep fuel at the pickup point. It will work just fine how it is, but you will be pissed the first time you run out of fuel on a slight angle when you have a 1/4 tank. Ask me how I know.

And the foam breaks down after about a year and clogs your fuel system and burns up pumps.

Just some stuff to keep in mind for phase 2 mods.
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being as i have been around 4x4 since i could walk, and dont have anything even relatively worth your rig shitting out, i am super jealous. great looking build, and good luck w navy
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95geo, I appreciate the tips. I heard 'bones's' story about the foam breaking down, but i guess the guys at lane's convinced me otherwise. do you really think the tabs will tear off, even with the rubber isolators? I'm glad your helping out, with this being my first build and all.
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95geo, I appreciate the tips. I heard 'bones's' story about the foam breaking down, but i guess the guys at lane's convinced me otherwise. do you really think the tabs will tear off, even with the rubber isolators? I'm glad your helping out, with this being my first build and all.
It isnt just Bones' case, that was the case for about 1/2 of the KOH fleet, Bills just happened sooner than everyone elses and at the worst possible time.

How many gallon fuel cell is that? Multiply that by 8lbs and you'll have probably between 150-200 lbs mounted by those 4 tabs that have zero reinforcements. Not only that, you are now holding the weight of the fuel up by them too since they are "isolated". In this case, I think the isolators are doing more harm than good, rather than distributing the weight of the fuel across the bottom face and into the surface it's mounted to, you're suspending it by 4 weak tabs.

Run it, see how long it'll last. I'm curious.
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I agree with 95geo. Oh, and as a side note, a gallon of gas is just over 6#. http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Which_is_h...er_or_gasoline

My vote would be to have a strap of thick rubber underneath the tank running from tab to tab. You could then bolt down through the tabs and I think it would be pretty secure. But, having it suspended while bouncing is not so good.
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allright guys. thanks for the heads up.

also, its a 14 gallon cell.
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