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Old September 26th, 2006, 02:34 PM   #21
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If another 911 happens I think it will be because we pissed someone off.

If you think the war on terror can be one think of it like this. You are sitting around watching TV. you love everyone in the world. All of a sudden a bomb falls on your house killing your entire family except you. You find out it was the U.S. What are you gonna do now?

So do you still think we should go overseas to fight this war.
i think you need to learn more about radical muslims. They already hated us, they hate the entire continent of south america, they hate china, canada and mexico .... south america and central america are all catholic they hate them just for that! .... jsut those countires arent as great a target and those countires dont bend over backwards for backwards for ass backwards immigrants, living like religious freaks stuck in the middle ages. We are not the only nation they hate. Get a gripe on reality man, they hate us because we are free, not muslim, democractic, we respect our women,PROSPEROUS heck THEY HATE OTHER MUSLIM NATIONS THAT ARENT RADICAL ENOUGH. IF we get attacked again it wont be becuase of us fighting back. Thats just retarded and comforting to think if we just left them alone they would leave us alone and everything would be all dreamy and peaceful. We are a prize target. Trust me they hate bolivia and cuba, and nepal and cyprus, and malta, and tongo but non of those countries are very strong. They attacks are part propoganda allso. Not very impressive to bomb New Zealand or Haiti both of which they hate also.

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Old September 26th, 2006, 02:40 PM   #22
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911 deaths = app 3020
U.S. deaths during current war = app 2703 and rising

Civilians killed in Iraq = app. 15,000 (someones mother , Father, Grandma, oh yeah and someones Baby.)

I know this is a little off topic. But for you Bush supporters I just figured I would point this out. It is easy to turn your head from these facts when you are sitting in your lazy boy watching survivor or whatever.

Those 2703 americans that were killed could be here defending us from another 911 protecting our borders instead of dying.

By the way, my Niece is in Iraq and I am a Veteran. I figured I would point that out before someone yhinks I am clueless and bling to the situation. Those nembers are facts.

You will find facts on Fox news. Just not all the facts. Nobody has the balls to present these numbers.

There will be terrorism on this planet as long as it exists. Lets defend ourselves instead of helping other countries first.
What we really need to pay attention to is how many Americans have been killed by terrorists on US soil since 9/11.

I think the number is somewhere right around 0. :miff:
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Old September 26th, 2006, 02:46 PM   #23
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Only the masses on this site not in america.
That's what you get when you post on a website of white Americans who pay taxes.

If you want people to agree with you I suggest you visit www.poorpeople.com or www.richpeoplewhodidntworkfortheirmoney.com
or try www.collegestudentswhobeleiveeverything
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Old September 26th, 2006, 02:50 PM   #24
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That's what you get when you post on a website of white Americans who pay taxes.

If you want people to agree with you I suggest you visit www.poorpeople.com or www.richpeoplewhodidntworkfortheirmoney.com
or try www.collegestudentswhobeleiveeverything
theirliberalprofessorsteachthem.com
muuuu haa haa haaa great franknbrew doesnt even have to be white though, just your average american who believes in the constitution, wants to see american suceeed, protect them selves, and family and the economy. Ohh and isnt living in a fairy land where if your "nice" to terrorists who hate every fiber of your being, they will be your friend
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Iam disappointed in you Jamiesann & FranknBrew.


You are trying to have a battle of wits with unarmed opponents.
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Old September 26th, 2006, 03:50 PM   #26
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Iam disappointed in you Jamiesann & FranknBrew.


You are trying to have a battle of wits with unarmed opponents.
The fact is nobody will change their mind and that is why we live in this great country because we have the ability to speak our minds. I know I will not change anyones mind on their opinion nor will I change my mind.
The problem is that most Democrats will only believe what there party believes and Republicans only believe what there party believes. Example: A republican who disagrees with abortion cannot speak his mind because he is a Republican. Same for Democrats.

But it seems that the Republicans are turning on their boy so things are starting to change
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Old September 26th, 2006, 03:59 PM   #27
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What we really need to pay attention to is how many Americans have been killed by terrorists on US soil since 9/11.

I think the number is somewhere right around 0. :miff:
If you honestly believe it will never happen again you are crazy. If we are there or not it is just a matter of time. Just like Jamiesann said. They have always hated us and always will. More are being created and pissed off every day. They sit around all day thinking of how to get at us and unfortunately one day they will.

Again if we are going to take the war to them why did we roll into Iraq. It was first for weapons and now to free them. Yes we will free them and when we pull out someday whenever that is. New terrorists will arise. It is like killing ants. You can wipe them all out but more ants will come back. Meanwhile our sons and daughters are dying while thousands of felons cross our border from mexico every day. This is another subject but will lead to more americans being killed in other ways.
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If you honestly believe it will never happen again you are crazy. If we are there or not it is just a matter of time. Just like Jamiesann said. They have always hated us and always will. More are being created and pissed off every day. They sit around all day thinking of how to get at us and unfortunately one day they will.

Again if we are going to take the war to them why did we roll into Iraq. It was first for weapons and now to free them. Yes we will free them and when we pull out someday whenever that is. New terrorists will arise. It is like killing ants. You can wipe them all out but more ants will come back. Meanwhile our sons and daughters are dying while thousands of felons cross our border from mexico every day. This is another subject but will lead to more americans being killed in other ways.
So you are saying.. kill em all and let god sort em out?
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So you are saying.. kill em all and let god sort em out?
How did you come to that conclusion??
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Because in another statement he said that the ones that died over there should be over here protecting us. So by that reasoning, any muslim, or someone that even looks a bit that way, should be killed as they enter the country. We should also have our troops here running the streets rounding up all the people that could possibly be terrorists.

Ya know...I think I vote for that...liberals are one notch above terrorists in my book so I think we should start there and hunt down and kill them first.
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Old September 26th, 2006, 04:49 PM   #31
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The fact is nobody will change their mind and that is why we live in this great country because we have the ability to speak our minds. I know I will not change anyones mind on their opinion nor will I change my mind.
The problem is that most Democrats will only believe what there party believes and Republicans only believe what there party believes. Example: A republican who disagrees with abortion cannot speak his mind because he is a Republican. Same for Democrats.

But it seems that the Republicans are turning on their boy so things are starting to change
I am fairly conservative republican on most issues but i am all for pro choice (thats TRUE republican to let people decide for themselves), also pro legalization of marijunana. You cant put me into a nice neat little box labeled republican.

Around 2002-2003 there was a reperesentative that jumped partys he was from conneticute, vermont or newhampsire i think one of those states. The were taking his vote for granted and not listening to him. This was at a time when i believe the house was split very close with one more republican than democrat making him a deciding vote on many issues. They took his vote for granted so he jumped party sides. This was just a few years ago ... not everyone is all repulican ... thats politics, you want my vote you have to hear me out and do good for my people back home in order to get my vote, thats what politics is about not joining a "club" its giving and taking and mediation. Sorry but any democrat can say what ever they want, as can any republican. In each party there is reps that are out of line with party issues, so long as the people back home like him thats fine with me and the way the system is upposed to work.

The war shouldnt be i am party X so i think this, and party Y people think that whether they really think that or not.

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Old September 26th, 2006, 05:30 PM   #32
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Because in another statement he said that the ones that died over there should be over here protecting us. So by that reasoning, any muslim, or someone that even looks a bit that way, should be killed as they enter the country. We should also have our troops here running the streets rounding up all the people that could possibly be terrorists.

Ya know...I think I vote for that...liberals are one notch above terrorists in my book so I think we should start there and hunt down and kill them first.
I was reffering to ILLEGAL aliens coming no matter what they look like. I never mentioned Muslims. I have nothing against Muslims at all. I was actually referring to drugs, gangs and murderers. Wheter they are innocent or not if they come over illegally that is wrong. I said Felons not Muslims. I work with Muslims and we laugh and joke all day long.

If you would take the time to read the entire post and not get so offended by what you see on the monitor, This is why i stated this is another subject because Illegal aliens have nothing to do with terrorism. (at least most)

As far as your last paragraph goes. That is the kind of response I expect and I laugh at it.
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Old September 26th, 2006, 05:36 PM   #33
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I work with Muslims and we laugh and joke all day long.

Always like when people have to point out how cool they are about working or being friends with someone. How come you didn't point out that you work with whites?
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because she or he was accusing wanting to round up muslims. How old are you anyway.

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If you would take the time to read the entire post...../QUOTE]

I did read the entire post....here are 4 comments you made.

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1. Those 2703 americans that were killed could be here defending us from another 911 protecting our borders instead of dying.

2. There will be terrorism on this planet as long as it exists. Lets defend ourselves instead of helping other countries first.

3. If you honestly believe it will never happen again you are crazy. If we are there or not it is just a matter of time.

4. You can wipe them all out but more ants will come back. Meanwhile our sons and daughters are dying while thousands of felons cross our border from mexico every day.
So if you follow your thoughts....you want us to ignore the bad guys that want to kill every american, let them breed, let them train, let them arm themselves, let them build in numbers, let them make atomic bombs, let them grow and get more powerful until they finally knock on our door for a fight....or maybe let them get here and plant several thousand dirty bombs to be set off at the same time....but kill everyone hopping the fence into America from Mexico looking for a job.
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I never said anything about killing anyone. I am the one against killing remember. I think capturing them as they jump the wall photographing them and fingerprinting them and sending them back would be a better option. our soldiers could help the border patrol do this. If you feel it is ok to let them in than thats your opinion.

This is one thing me and your buddy Bill Oreilly agree on.
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Ok fine, take picture and send them back....the rest still holds though...

So if you follow your thoughts....you want us to ignore the bad guys that want to kill every american, let them breed, let them train, let them arm themselves, let them build in numbers, let them make atomic bombs, let them grow and get more powerful until they finally knock on our door for a fight....or maybe let them get here and plant several thousand dirty bombs to be set off at the same time....but lets use the millitary to help keep the mexicans out.

Who's gonna keep the Canadians out? They really dropped the ball on letting Jenny in. Maybe we could use the state police from all the states to patrol the northern border, since they, like the millitary, have nothing worth while to do with their time.:miff:
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They are building faster in numbers because we are on ther land blowing shit up. They will have weapons they will get them from other countries (unless we fight them to) If they want to make dirty bombs they will get ahold of it.

Listen I realize we have to do something. It should be done quitely and with special forces. Terrorism already lives among us. As long as there are different religions there will be terrorism.

Let me ask you, how long should we be in Iraq? no matter when we pull out of there, it will go back to normal. And why am I even asking about Iraq? we should be in Afghanastan. If it is because Iraq is harboring terrorists we better be ready to fight the planet.

Oh and nobody cares about the canadians anyways. Why should they come here they have free health care and good hunting and fishing.
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They are building faster in numbers because we are on ther land blowing shit up. They will have weapons they will get them from other countries (unless we fight them to) If they want to make dirty bombs they will get ahold of it.
they are growing in numbers cause of radical clerics, the high jacking of peaceful islma by wasabi (sp?) movement in saudi arabia, the movement of money to small poor town lets radical mosques spring up every where from sudan to afghanistan. Some locals know its bad, not true islam, but they cant say that cause the town is broke and terrorist islam money is keeping the people fed. They are buying loyalty.

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Listen I realize we have to do something. It should be done quitely and with special forces. Terrorism already lives among us. As long as there are different religions there will be terrorism.
Most any other relgious squabble right now is directed at one country ie irish catholics vs. england, chinese athiest vs. buddhists in nepal, stuff like that. The catholics in ireland arent out to turn everyone in the world catholic or put them to death. do you even understand the ideal of this radical muslim movement?

baaa haaa haaa special forces? we are stretch pretty thin as it is, we cant win this battle with special forces. They are a tool in the greater battle not the end answer. special forces as in highly trained elite physicaly and mentally, years and years of training. Only a fraction of a % of the military.

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Let me ask you, how long should we be in Iraq? no matter when we pull out of there, it will go back to normal. And why am I even asking about Iraq? we should be in Afghanastan. If it is because Iraq is harboring terrorists we better be ready to fight the planet.
Pull out and go back to normal as in military dictatorship, you mean like when we pulled out of japan and that happend or german or south korea or vietnam ? Boznia ?
We should be mowing down radical muslims everywhere from egypt to indonesia.

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Oh and nobody cares about the canadians anyways. Why should they come here they have free health care and good hunting and fishing.
the took away most of canandas rights of gun ownership. The health care isnt free they have high taxes, and i woudlnt want "free government health care" anymore than i want government cheese or free government housing. Only stuff that is free is and good is stuff you cant buy like air, sunshine, love. If its free i dont want it, and sure as hell dont want the government to be my provider. If canadian health care is so great why do wealthy canadians come to america for service ???? Why do you have to wait months for certain procedures in canada you can get next day here in america.

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Obviously no matter what I post you will disagree with me. This is the problem with our Govt. Some of your points are true and some are true depending how you look at it.

My points are also true. You are right about radical clerics. and I am right about our being there causing more recruits. would you sign on to a force if someone you felt was wrong came to your country to change things you did not agree with?

You laugh at my post about special forces. I come from a family where I my father and my grandfather have served. My fiancees father protected by gunfire the soldiers who rose the flag at Iwo-Jima I myself have worked with Seals. Trust me if the headline news was not giving out info on this war as much as they are about location of enimies and possible locations of targets we could easily take out leaders. They can watch the news and see where we are looking.

I dont recall much terrorism coming from those other countries you listed lately. But let me look out my window.

Again, on Canada nobody cares about them anyways.
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