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Old October 13th, 2011, 01:00 AM   #1
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What is the difference between the two? Im comparing 1994 and newer dodge 60 vs. old school ford 60. Obviously u cant get one with kingpins anymore. Are the unit bearings weaker or shafts? Any info is good info. Let me know.what yall think. I have a 44 and lookin.to go one.tons. Stayin between a 38-40 inch tire.
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Old October 13th, 2011, 04:55 AM   #2
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The 94+ dodge 60's are worthless for off road unless you spend a fortune dealing with its many weak points. The unit bearings are not ideal, but the Central axle disconnect is a much bigger issue along with the smaller shaft sizes as well. The biggest drawback of the unit bearing is no factory lockout, sure you can get aftermarket hubs and rotors to make the switch but those parts along will cost you more than a Ford dana 60. The passenger side axle shaft on the newer dodges is a 2 piece with a sliding coupler to engage true 4 wheel drive, these are notorious for breaking or sliding our of the locked position. This issue can also be remedied using aftermarket shafts, but again you'd HAVE to spend money to fix a problem that the Ford axle doesn't have. The dodge is also low pinion and only has small 30 spline shafts at the carrier comparef the the Ford which is high pinion and has beefy 35 spline shafts.

Since Ford was still using the king pin 60 until just shy of 1992 there are still quite a few of them out there driving around, you will just have to be patient and wait for the rest of the truck to die before the front axle will hit the market. Honestly if you aren't planning on high steer or hydraulic steering a ball joint axle would be quite sufficient for most types of wheeling / driving styles. The KP is stronger, and offers the bolt on steering arms but the rest is pretty much identical. If you do end up with a BJ axle, just be sure to carry spare joints just in case.
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Old October 13th, 2011, 10:35 AM   #3
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Actually it is real easy to add lock outs to a dodge 60. Find a ttb dana 50 outa a f250 and pull everything from the spindle out and put on the dodge. yes you need to drill some holes for the spindle to bolt to where the unit bearing was bolted. use 79 rotors and your dodge calipers will work. Very easy. Then weld a cover on the axle disconect and order a custom shaft and you have a fairly easy front axle upgrade.
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Thankd guys. Im picking up a 87 ford kingpin in a week or two. Will 15 insh wheels fit?
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No but ill sell u some 16" rims cheap
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Thankd guys. Im picking up a 87 ford kingpin in a week or two. Will 15 insh wheels fit?
Yes, but you will need the correct back spacing to clear the brakes. Because of this, 8 bolt 15's can be pricey.
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Gotcha I asked cuz I.can get a set of 42s on a 15 for a good deal
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Just depends. about 2.5 in of back spacing is the limit. And you will have to grind the calipers. 2in you wont i think.
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grinding calipers is no big deal, get whatever is available. there's plenty of meat in the calipers you can remove. big grinder goes faster than a little one. first side will take longer to get right, the second one you'll have done in 20-40 mins.
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There is a thread over on Pirate about this swap. I want to do it, but am having trouble finding just the parts from the ball joint out and a Ford Dana 60. The up side is that you get the lock outs, and also a dual piston caliper, plus breaks are a lot easier.

From what I recall from that thread, the TTB stuff is junk and does not work. As far as the axle disconnect, I just have mine pinned over using the posi-lok shift fork.
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The TTB swap is very common. just cant use the outer knuckle due to castor issues. IMO the dodge brakes are way easier to work with. The only difference is the depth of the ridge that sticks into the outer knuckle on the spindle on the d50 verse the d60. I see no reason to swap the out knuckles when the BJ's are the same and all it takes is to drill 3 holes in the spindle flange of the d50 spindle to make the whole thing work.
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I'm looking for another kingpin dodge axle with the heavy c's... I think I'll be pleased with the performance of the one I have.
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