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Old March 25th, 2011, 01:37 PM   #1
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I have an 04 grand cherokee lerado with 50k miles on the clock (4.0) and a 91 wrangler. This summer when I go to the dunes/rocks and valleys Im considering renting a uhaul trailer. Ill bedriving 55 the whole way.

Ill be taking 2 trips this summer that I would liek to tow the jeep to.

How much of an idiot am I?
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The biggest concern isn't the tow rig, but the uhaul trailer itself. Get a good trailer (not uhaul) that has good electronic brakes, and then put a brake controller in the tow pig. Pick up a weight distributing hitch off craiglist. And take your time.
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Old March 25th, 2011, 03:05 PM   #3
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The biggest concern isn't the tow rig, but the uhaul trailer itself. Get a good trailer (not uhaul) that has good electronic brakes, and then put a brake controller in the tow pig. Pick up a weight distributing hitch off craiglist. And take your time.
Have the hitch and the controller, not going to buy a trailer. I also have monroe air shocks installed in the rear of grand. We used to own a 4000lb boat, the way the trailer was setup it had 600 lbs of toung weight and it was a delight to tow/stop. I never broke 55 and the trailer had hydrolic brakes. I have towed a lot of with a one ton dodge when I worked at a boat shop, I know that there is a fine line between safe and scarry when it come to trailers. Though the 4000lb boat/trailer was fine the jeep/trailer weighs 2000lb more and the rental trailer may not have perfect brakes.

EDIT: uhauls have hydrolic brakes correct? so there there junk probably wont work correctly. I wonder if penski (sp?) has decent trailers, there tucks sure look a lot nicer than u-haul.

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CC towed with a V8 grand I think. Your trans is going to hate you have u mwasured, will your wrangler fit on the trailer width wise?
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That is going to suck and you are going to be pushing the limits of your WJ. Properly equipped the WJ with the 4.0 is only rated to tow 5,000lb, the v8 was rated at around 6,500 if I remember right. Upgrade your tranny with a huge aftermarket cooler or it's not going to last long hauling that kind of load.
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CC towed with a V8 grand I think. Your trans is going to hate you have u mwasured, will your wrangler fit on the trailer width wise?

32-1150-15s on factoy wheels/axles, why wouldnt it?

The grand has one of thoes fancy trans colers w/ an electric fan built in. I was a little paranoid when I was getting ready to tow that boat for 3 hours through hills and shit. Traverse city to indian river was no issue the trans never got warm, I crept over a few hills 45mph but I was driving like a nancy! It was 95 and sunny!


This would only be twice this summer.


I considered flat towing and setting up electric brakes on the jeep, I saw a website once where a guy made a whole bypass so that he had electric brakes on a cherokee.


Flat towing sucks because It will only help if If I explode somthing non axle related.
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Should be fine, I just know they are tight if ya run to wide of a tire
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Should be fine, I just know they are tight if ya run to wide of a tire
Thats what I figured.


Even if it is to wide I have to I have a set of 215-75s I can run while on trails(shit...thats work)

Any one have expirence with penski car haulers?
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I towed a lifted YJ on 35's on a U-haul trailer behind a '96 V8 ZJ. It sucked. But, with the air shocks on the Grand, it would be a lot better. The Uhaul trailer suck ass. The hydraulic brakes never work for shit, so you will be relying almost entirely on your Grand's brakes.
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Old March 25th, 2011, 04:40 PM   #10
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I wonder what it would take to do a once over on the hydrolic brake system and insure its working properly. before towing

I have never worked on that syle of system before.
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Ya know, the front wheel only type?! Any chance you'ld do that? I pulled a CJ from Alabam to Michigan. Granted I had a moving truck to pull it! I did have to put the originl tires on the front to fit it on the dolly tho! Had no issues with the CJ. And I removed the rear drive shaft, just in case!!!

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Ya know, the front wheel only type?! Any chance you'ld do that? I pulled a CJ from Alabam to Michigan. Granted I had a moving truck to pull it! I did have to put the originl tires on the front to fit it on the dolly tho! Had no issues with the CJ. And I removed the rear drive shaft, just in case!!!

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You did NO wrong.


Dolly is out of the question, I considered it at first but it defeats the main purpose of towing the jeep.

If I smoke the rear I cant tow it home.
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should be ok, lack of power will suck though.

Pulled my jeep with a friends grand and it was ok (no trailer brakes either). For only a couple times a year you should be ok if you take it easy.

Why not just save up for a used hauler, you can find them for 6-800 if you keep your eyes open. Renting them can get pricey.
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We have a v8 WJ. It pulls our CJ just fine, but it was pretty creepy until we got the load leveling hitch and the brake controller. It might be a little heavy for the 4.0 but if I recall correctly the torque ratings on 4.0 are close to the v8.
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Thats what I figured.


Even if it is to wide I have to I have a set of 215-75s I can run while on trails(shit...thats work)

Any one have expirence with penski car haulers?
Back in 05 Penske would not rent out a car hauler unless you were going to pull it with one of their trucks. I've heard Uhaul can be picky and refuse to rent you one if their books show your tow vehicle is not up to the task.
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You will have no trouble fitting on a Uhaul car hauler. I put my Jeep on one last year with 37's I just had to use my own straps. They use surge brakes, not the best setup but they do help. I only trailered it a couple times but with no problems with the trailer.
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I have an 01 Wj with I tow everything good break controler and never break 55-60 mph and make sure you have the trany cooler and what have ya and you will be good
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Old September 18th, 2011, 10:05 AM   #18
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I have an 01 Wj with I tow everything good break controler and never break 55-60 mph and make sure you have the trany cooler and what have ya and you will be good

Well I ended up towing it to Silver lake in June, wasn't bad at all.

Surge brakes worked well.

I did not break my jeep.


Thanks for bringing an old thread back, now let it re die.
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