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Old September 4th, 2011, 09:35 PM   #21
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i agree with you Green. I fixed the side of the frame where it was cracked by plating it. I guess if I did not have this issue I would have never found the cracks under the frame (where the bottom of the steering box bracket attaches with two bolts). So that is one good thing that came from this.

This winter I will be cutting that section out and replacing it with new steel. I just need this to last for silver lake on the 9th.
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Old September 4th, 2011, 09:40 PM   #22
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I just did that repair on mine. That's a 20 year old Jeep I guess.

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Old September 4th, 2011, 09:48 PM   #23
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what killed mine was the bolts worked themselves loose. I did not notice until it was to late. I'm guessing if I found they were loose I would of saved the frame. I know that is a weak point so now that it is broke, its time to fix and upgrade it.
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Old September 4th, 2011, 11:26 PM   #24
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I solved all my jeep problems by getting rid of the jeep.
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Old September 5th, 2011, 06:47 AM   #25
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what killed mine was the bolts worked themselves loose. I did not notice until it was to late. I'm guessing if I found they were loose I would of saved the frame. I know that is a weak point so now that it is broke, its time to fix and upgrade it.
Steering gear box brace is your friend. Make one like I did
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Old September 5th, 2011, 08:36 AM   #26
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Plus the bracket that bolts to the frame there holds dirt and water against the frame and let's it rust out. I plated mine all the way around, but have not bought/made a brace yet. There is definitely a lot of stress there, especially with big tires.

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Old September 5th, 2011, 10:05 AM   #27
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Welding cracks is not the fix. Dont play around with your steering, its kind of important. Get this fixed correctly.
That's just silly, there are plenty of nuns and kittens on the highway needing to be taken care of by people with questionable steering setups.
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Old September 5th, 2011, 11:06 AM   #28
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I solved all my jeep problems by getting rid of the jeep.


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Old January 26th, 2012, 02:47 PM   #29
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Ok its all fixed.

What it looked like before.... was fixed fast just to survive a silver lake trip.


Cut the bad out:


Used that section to make a new part using (2) 1/4" plate steel:


Welded up:


Underside:


Steering box brace using black pipe I had laying around and a 2 1/4 muffler clamp:


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Old January 26th, 2012, 03:28 PM   #30
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Old January 26th, 2012, 03:51 PM   #31
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is that an exhaust clamp with booger welded black pipe?


(is not surprised the asian posting above is calling it pimp)
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Old January 26th, 2012, 04:08 PM   #32
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Yep, and for what he is doing with it, it will work fine. Just won't look as nice as some peoples fab work.

Unfortunately, some of my fab work is not real pretty either.
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Old January 26th, 2012, 07:12 PM   #33
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I'm no artist with metal, I just try not to show things which look questionable. (haha? mschaffer will probably chime in about my bdmt tahoe about now)

Are jeep frames really that flexible with the steering?
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Old January 26th, 2012, 09:02 PM   #34
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You do realize it's been almost 5 months right?



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Old January 26th, 2012, 09:16 PM   #35
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is that an exhaust clamp with booger welded black pipe?


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just the top looks like that. I ran out of gas and had to use flux.... shit sucks for anything while having to lay on your back and dodge spatter. I'm not to concerned if it does break, which it will not. Would you like me to re weld it and take a better macro photo for you??

I actually did this over xmas break, just figured I'd update my thread with pics. I still get death wobble though.... so I have to look at the heim joints and ensure the springs are torqued down correctly at the spring eyes.
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Old January 26th, 2012, 09:56 PM   #36
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How much caster do you have at ride height?
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Old January 26th, 2012, 10:08 PM   #37
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I'm not sure. How would I check? It only started recently which lead to to the steering gear box. Fixed that and it went away until the other day. I can stick my head out the window and see the tire move back and forth. I do hear a sound when i'm on flat ground , engine off and I turn the wheel. I need to check ball joints and bearings.
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Old January 26th, 2012, 10:19 PM   #38
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You going to be around this weekend Scott? I need to come out and see your new place and projects.
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Old January 26th, 2012, 10:24 PM   #39
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no point in welding it better - the black pipe or clamp will smush out before they break. I think we can agree that the parts used are easily malleable.

the "fix" you made is about the same as adding a steering dampener, its only masking other problems that will rear up and bite you at the most inopportune times. check to see if your clamp is already smushed out.
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Old January 26th, 2012, 10:54 PM   #40
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No its still in tact. I used sch 40 pipe. People use it for bumpers and sliders all the time. Guess calling it black pipe is confusing as its not all the same ratings.

the "fix" is very common with jeeps and other off road vehicles. There are many vendors out there selling kits. From the ones I have seen, they look no stronger than what I made. But you could be correct and it could fail. I'll just re think it and make it sronger
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