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Old August 28th, 2011, 06:40 PM   #1
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i just purchased my first diesel thursday afternoon, its a 96 f250 single cab long box with 151xxx miles on it. drove it all day thursday and to work that night, then home friday morning and around town during the day friday, then friday night while going through town it starts missing and acting like it ran out of fuel, so i pull onto a side street and flip tanks real quick wondering if the tank was empty knowing i had just filled it thusday, i didn't believe so but w/e. it spit and sputtered for a minute then i was able to throtle it back to life and it ran fine again till the store. left the store after adding diesel clean and took the back roads home to open it up a bit and clean its self out, made the first corner it spit and sputtered and coasted to a dead stop. after 30 mins of fighting with it it fired and drove home. saturday while driving home it did the same thing spit and sputtered and dieded. only took 15mins to get it started this time by feathering and holding the throttle wide open it started and ran fine the rest of the way home. am i headed in the right irection to asume the filter needs to be changed as the truck had been sitting for awhile before purchase?
also things i know need replacing are the belt and the tensioner pully and/or the tensioner its self being the pully has worn half way threw the tensioner bolt itself. also the batterys check out good and i didn't notice any change in the alt gauge during the time which it was acting up as that was my first guess as to be the problem. long winded i know wanted to get all info out at once.

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Old August 28th, 2011, 06:47 PM   #2
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How long did it sit?? Bad fuel or bad filter would be a start I guess
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Old August 28th, 2011, 07:00 PM   #3
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x2, clogged filter(s)
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Old August 29th, 2011, 06:35 PM   #4
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sat for sale for about 2 months and rumor has it it sat at the guys house for a while before being put up for sale. filter was my first guess after the baterys checkd out, will change filter once i get back to that project need to finish the jeep and get it outa the garage...simple drive train swap took way longer then expected on the jeep lol
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Old August 29th, 2011, 06:47 PM   #5
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Look at the middle of the grill, if you need more explination I pitty you... If it only started after tons of cranking it might be the filter, if it started after sitting it could be a lift pump, if the fords have those. Did you switch tanks again the second time it died?
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Old August 29th, 2011, 07:33 PM   #6
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Any white smoke? I wonder if your separator is full of water...
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Check IPR valve's tin nut to made sure it tight.

Did you check oil level?


When it die did you check fuel filter to see if fuel is there or empty.
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freak: it starts up after cranking on it for awhile and fathering/holding the throttle open. the first tmie it did it was on the back tank which was full when i bought the truck, the second time it was on the front tank which i filled thrsday afternoon. and then drove home on the rear tank after it started again.

scooter: i havnt seen any smoke or anything either while cranking it over or after it fires.

milwaukeef350: the oil is full checked that also the first time it happened, what/where is the ipr valve tin nut? first diesel still leraning. and i havnt looked to see if the filter is housing is empty when it happenes.

could any of this be caused by the bad belt tensioner not being tight and spinning somthing fast enough?
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Belt won't have anything to do with this, the pump is mechanical and typically gear driven, turbo is powered by exhaust.
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had a 95 that quit on me and it ended up being the wiring harnesses. I think they were under the valvle covers, its been a while cant remember
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Old August 31st, 2011, 03:05 PM   #11
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same thing happened to me i changed the fuel filter was all good.. also check that your hpop is full because the injectors use the oil pressure from the hpop.
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IPR is your Injector pressure regulator. Your HPOP creates high pressure oil which is fed through you injectors to fire them. If you are not building enough pressure the truck will not start. Sometimes if you have a leak the system will have symptoms of dying after warming up.
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how do i go about checking the ipr and hpop if the filter does not solve this issue?
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If your OBD II reads high pressure oil you may be able to check it with a scanner.

Your issue sounds like a fuel issue though. Drain your water separator
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Something else to check would be the valve that switches your tanks. These valves are known to stick and cause fuel issues.
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Old September 2nd, 2011, 02:40 PM   #16
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thanks for all the advice guys. im working on finishing my jeep this weekend hopfully and then will tackle this issue, i will be starting with the filter as i have visualy checked it and it appears to quiet black and also the hpop oil lever as am told it is right in front of the fuel filter. after that i will see what hapens and continue going down the list of things to check. thanks again
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I always heard 2 change the engine oil when they start doing that because the injector are fired by engine oil. If changing the fuel filter dosent work try that.
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will probly change everything if the filter doesn't change anything.... is the hpop resivoir filled through the oiling system or does it ahve to be filled seperatly? havnt looked into it much with other things going on but need it running soon as my g/f just sold her jeep and i now need two vehicles again
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X 2 on the wiring harness. Had the same thing happen on mine around the same milage.
There's a clipthat comes unpolugged where the injectors and glow plugs wiring goes through the valve cover gasket. It comes unclipped and then it runs like poo- or not at all. PM Frdboy for any tips on taking care of it. I think he knows the part number by heart for that clip.
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The hpop is filled through the regular oil system. Because it requires you to build so much oil pressure so fast it has its own built in reservoir. Even changing the oil will not completely change all of the oil in the system. A few quarts are always in the HPOP res. for starts.

Dirty oil can cause injector failure.
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