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Old August 9th, 2011, 03:04 PM   #1
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0-5 years of experience.
Must have BSME
Client wants someone who is interested in becoming a diesel engine development engineer, you will get training, you will learn how to design components and systems, you will learn how to simulate changes on the computer, you will learn how to run engines on the dyno and test, you will have a chance to become a controls/calibration guy, you will have a lot of opportunity in front of you, and the client is looking only for:
0-5 years experience
Must have BSME (prefers the good schools, U of M, MTU, Kettering, ETC)
Prefers hands on automotive hobby type guys.

Will not consider BSEE, BSMET, Associates, etc.

Will consider someone who will graduate in the next couple weeks. Not months, not years.

Contract 6-12 months and then full time direct hire to follow if performance is good.
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Old August 9th, 2011, 03:20 PM   #2
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Damn - that sounds like my kinda job, wrong side of the state..
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0-5 years of experience.
Must have BSME
Client wants someone who is interested in becoming a diesel engine development engineer, you will get training, you will learn how to design components and systems, you will learn how to simulate changes on the computer, you will learn how to run engines on the dyno and test, you will have a chance to become a controls/calibration guy, you will have a lot of opportunity in front of you, and the client is looking only for:
0-5 years experience
Must have BSME (prefers the good schools, U of M, MTU, Kettering, ETC)
Prefers hands on automotive hobby type guys.

Will not consider BSEE, BSMET, Associates, etc.

Will consider someone who will graduate in the next couple weeks. Not months, not years.

Contract 6-12 months and then full time direct hire to follow if performance is good.
I needs to go backs teh skoolz All of these super sweet jobs that I haz experience for but not the piece of paper to back it up.
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Old August 9th, 2011, 03:24 PM   #4
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I needs to go backs teh skoolz All of these super sweet jobs that I haz experience for but not the piece of paper to back it up.
We can make one with Photoshop.
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Old August 9th, 2011, 03:42 PM   #5
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Sounds like a good opportunity for someone!
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Old August 9th, 2011, 03:45 PM   #6
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0-5 years of experience.
Must have BSME
Client wants someone who is interested in becoming a diesel engine development engineer, you will get training, you will learn how to design components and systems, you will learn how to simulate changes on the computer, you will learn how to run engines on the dyno and test, you will have a chance to become a controls/calibration guy, you will have a lot of opportunity in front of you, and the client is looking only for:
0-5 years experience
Must have BSME (prefers the good schools, U of M, MTU, Kettering, ETC)
Prefers hands on automotive hobby type guys.

Will not consider BSEE, BSMET, Associates, etc.

Will consider someone who will graduate in the next couple weeks. Not months, not years.

Contract 6-12 months and then full time direct hire to follow if performance is good.

I'm just curious about their reasoning behind this. Not much difference between a BSME and a BSMET. One is more theory based and the other applied based. Figured they would accept BSMET's due to the applied factor.
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Too bad this opportunity probably won't be around in 4 years.
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That's what 9.5 % unemployment gets you - the employers get to be picky
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Doesn't pay enough, too far away, I am over qualified, have to deal with kickstand, why won't they take my math degree?

Did I get them all?
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I'm just curious about their reasoning behind this. Not much difference between a BSME and a BSMET. One is more theory based and the other applied based. Figured they would accept BSMET's due to the applied factor.
My understanding from the hiring managers that I have worked with is that the BSME requires a few more math classes and paper based engineering courses where the BSMET leans more towards hands on type stuff, I don't know particularly as its been a while since I cared.

But, I can tell you that it is not uncommon. Most product engineering positions I have recruited for they frown on the bsmet.
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My understanding from the hiring managers that I have worked with is that the BSME requires a few more math classes and paper based engineering courses where the BSMET leans more towards hands on type stuff, I don't know particularly as its been a while since I cared.

But, I can tell you that it is not uncommon. Most product engineering positions I have recruited for they frown on the bsmet.
Why would they frown on a BSMET if it is more hands-on? Seems to me you can't really be a mechanic if all you have experience with is turning pages in a book and listening to lectures, for example.

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Old August 9th, 2011, 07:45 PM   #12
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I have a BS and it would seem to me they are not looking for a mechanic
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Old August 9th, 2011, 07:49 PM   #13
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Why would they frown on a BSMET if it is more hands-on? Seems to me you can't really be a mechanic if all you have experience with is turning pages in a book and listening to lectures, for example.
Just read a different thread. You don't have your BS in any form, you don't live in Michigan, and you are not qualified for the job, hell, you can't even comprehend what the position is.
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I have a BS in Health Professions and an Associates in Applied Science, if I multiply those by 3 and divide by the remainder can I get a degree that will qualify for this position?

Jesus Fawkin Christ people, why is it so hard to read directions. (Mainly cglen [sic])

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I dont have a BS in anything but I know how to BS someone.
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I know I can't get that job, even though I would consider going back to school for it so I could get it. With my luck the field will be outsourced the day I get my degree. I'm just discussing why the employer wants that specific degree. You better believe if I even had a BSMET I'd call that guy up every single day until I had the position.

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why have a degree at all then?
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Why would they frown on a BSMET if it is more hands-on? Seems to me you can't really be a mechanic if all you have experience with is turning pages in a book and listening to lectures, for example.
It sounds to me like they are looking for someone with a ME degree who has the math background but ALSO has the mechanical inclination. ME's with a mechanical aptitude are much more common than MET's with a mathematical aptitude.
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Once again stupidity shines. An employer KNOWS WHAT THEY WANT and some kid wants to argue that this or that would be just as good. I would not hire that person simply on the fact that they can't show respect.
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I know I can't get that job, even though I would consider going back to school for it so I could get it. With my luck the field will be outsourced the day I get my degree. I'm just discussing why the employer wants that specific degree. You better believe if I even had a BSMET I'd call that guy up every single day until I had the position.
And your first 5 calls would go like this.
1. I'd tell you that you weren't qualified.
2. I'd remind you that I told you on our last call you were not qualified for the opening.
3. I'd let you leave a voicemail and not return your call.
4. I'd remind you again that you are not qualified for the position and remind you AGAIN that if you WERE qualified for something I would call you, since that's my job.
5. I'd remind you that you were not qualified for the job and you had poor listening skills, a lack of respect for my time, an inability to follow directions, and you were not the type of candidate that I would feel confident having represent me.

I would make note of each conversation in my database, and the next thing you know not a single recruiter nationwide would be willing to work with someone who was ignorant. FYI, the company I work for is a top ten company in our industry, you would have just fucked yourself out of hundreds of thousands of job opportunities world wide.
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