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Old August 16th, 2011, 08:19 PM   #81
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Seems to me like kickstand is a spoiled, self centered, asshole who thinks that everyone can make the best decisions in the world. Just like he did
While chad may be a douche, he does seem to have done pretty well so far. Only time will tell. On one hand i do feel for those that were cheated, i have seen wayy too many old bums.
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Old August 16th, 2011, 08:23 PM   #82
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While chad may be a douche, he does seem to have done pretty well so far. Only time will tell. On one hand i do feel for those that were cheated, i have seen wayy too many old bums.
I agree that he has done very well for himself. All I am saying is that, there is NO FUCKING WAY EVER that every person will make as good of choices as he has. It seems to me that he expects everyone to do so, and that is what is so fucking annoying about most of his posts. He thinks that everyone that makes poor choices is below him, and while I am not doing nearly as well as him, I am still happy and able to provide everything my family needs.
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Old August 16th, 2011, 08:27 PM   #83
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There are some college students that use the bridge card properly. For instance my friend who is a Single mom goign through college while struggling to find a job that works with her class, and her daughters' class, schedule. Just because you did it doesn't mean everybody can.
I'm torn on this.

My typical prick attitude says who gives a cares...you wanted to go to school the easy way? Shouldn't popped out a kid. Besides, I would venture to say that there's no way a single mother is paying every dime for school (read: grants/scholarships). It's tough but there are plenty of decisions that will affect your life forever, and having a kid when not being prepared was one of them...

However, I'd much rather see someone like her with a bridge card instead of the low-life's that have no plan to further themselves in the long run.

I suppose I don't see how this would affect your friend, either. I would imagine that her being a single parent she would qualify for a card if her income was low enough regardless of her student status at any college/university. Plus, pop's should be paying his fair share as well...and though this is an entirely different subject, he should be held accountable.
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Old August 16th, 2011, 08:43 PM   #84
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Seems to me like kickstand is a spoiled, self centered, asshole who thinks that everyone can make the best decisions in the world. Just like he did
I know the dickstand pretty well..in fact I gave him the name kickstand when he was trying to chase some tail one night, but that is besides the point...I would not consider him to be soiled or spoiled. Nor would I consider him to be self centered(unless he is drunk...not drinking but shit faced drunk). Chad has dropped what he was doing on several occasions to help myself or anyone of our other friends. He is however an asshole and thats why I like him. Online he comes off as quiet the d-bag, but then again so do alot of us, me especially. I'm not sure what this has to do with anything, but I just ate some pickled bologna and it was awesome!
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Old August 16th, 2011, 08:47 PM   #85
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I know the dickstand pretty well..in fact I gave him the name kickstand when he was trying to chase some tail one night, but that is besides the point...I would not consider him to be soiled or spoiled. Nor would I consider him to be self centered(unless he is drunk...not drinking but shit faced drunk). Chad has dropped what he was doing on several occasions to help myself or anyone of our other friends. He is however an asshole and thats why I like him. Online he comes off as quiet the d-bag, but then again so do alot of us, me especially. I'm not sure what this has to do with anything, but I just ate some pickled bologna and it was awesome!

Ok let me re-phrase my original post. Kickstand's GL4x4 character is a spoiled, self-centered asshole. In real life he may be a hell of a dude.
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Old August 16th, 2011, 08:49 PM   #86
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Ok let me re-phrase my original post. Kickstand's GL4x4 character is a spoiled, self-centered asshole. In real life he may be a hell of a dude.
He does suckle a mean cock.
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Old August 16th, 2011, 09:05 PM   #87
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I'm torn on this.

My typical prick attitude says who gives a cares...you wanted to go to school the easy way? Shouldn't popped out a kid. Besides, I would venture to say that there's no way a single mother is paying every dime for school (read: grants/scholarships). It's tough but there are plenty of decisions that will affect your life forever, and having a kid when not being prepared was one of them...
Yeah, She wasn't expecting to have children. It was "an accident". Still a choice she made to have sex though.

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However, I'd much rather see someone like her with a bridge card instead of the low-life's that have no plan to further themselves in the long run.

I suppose I don't see how this would affect your friend, either. I would imagine that her being a single parent she would qualify for a card if her income was low enough regardless of her student status at any college/university. Plus, pop's should be paying his fair share as well...and though this is an entirely different subject, he should be held accountable.
I totally agree with you. I've seen plenty of people 'properly' using one and plenty of the complete opposite. I don't feel bad for the ones that abuse it. Honestly, if Joe frat boy can't get booze now, I have no problem. I just worry that it's "one more thing" for people like my friend who already have so much going on.

I'm not entirely sure what the situation is with the guy is. I know he's not a part of either of thier lives anymore.
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Old August 17th, 2011, 08:28 AM   #88
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Seems to me like kickstand is a spoiled, self centered, asshole who thinks that everyone can make the best decisions in the world. Just like he did
Then you are completely mis-reading my posts. I don't believe that I have made the best choices in life, there are plenty of things that I would like to change about certain things in my life, however, I have taken responsibility for all of my choices in life and I have learned from my mistakes.

I also don't expect anyone else to pay for my mistakes besides myself, at least once a week I drop everything I am doing to go lend 5 minutes to a friend and all of my friends have done the same for me.

But what I have not done is go and pay hancho's mortgage so he can sit on his ass all day and drink beer, smoke cigs, and be a lazy worthless fucking prick.

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I agree that he has done very well for himself. All I am saying is that, there is NO FUCKING WAY EVER that every person will make as good of choices as he has. It seems to me that he expects everyone to do so, and that is what is so fucking annoying about most of his posts. He thinks that everyone that makes poor choices is below him, and while I am not doing nearly as well as him, I am still happy and able to provide everything my family needs.
Tons of people that I know have made better choices for themselves than I have, tons of people make more money than I do, in fact although I am satisfied with my success in life, I'm barely above the "poverty line" and just clawing my way into the middle class.

I could care less what choices other people make in life, so long as I don't have to contribute my tax dollars to it, unfortunately that is not the case.

You see it's real annoying to see people who are milking the system live a higher standard of life than I get to enjoy, while I work 70 hour weeks and bust my ass to provide things for my kids and family.



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Ok let me re-phrase my original post. Kickstand's GL4x4 character is a spoiled, self-centered asshole. In real life he may be a hell of a dude.
My gl4x4 character is no different than my in person character, half of the people I will drop everything for and go help are people I have never met in real life and only know through gl4x4.

Hancho qualifies as one of those people, granted he was not totally helpless with out my help, but out of the blue he pm'd me and asked me a question a few years back, turns out I knew the answer, and he lived 3 miles away, so I went to his house to explain it and help him rather than over the interwebs.

The point? The same asshole typing this post went over to hancho's house with a case of beer to help out another internet asshole for no reason at all.

If you make poor choices in life and do not plan properly for YOUR future, why the fukc should my hard earned money that could be spent in a better fashion by our government be given to you instead of being spent on something that I would get enjyoment out of?

Look at it like this, I can either pay money for college kids and elderly and lazy fucks to milk the system because they either won't work hard enough for it, didn't work hard enough for it, or flat out just didn't plan well enough for it.

OR

I can pay my taxes and have the government invest additional money to state parks that I enjoy, off road trails, mountain bike trails, a better riverfront on the detroit river to boat and go to dinner at, better shitters at silver lake, additional summer jobs for college kids at all of our parks to make them nicer for those of us to enjoy, smoother roads, better education, etc.

I dunno about you, but me personally? I'd rather my tax dollars go to the second choice. Not to people who are poor planners, lazy, and system milkers.
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Old August 17th, 2011, 08:43 AM   #89
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I do not totally disagree with you at all. I hear what you are saying.

My grandfather was a navy guy, worked for the livonia PD, was never a "rich" man with a super high paying job. Grandma drove a school bus. They paid off their first house at a very young age.

Grandpa passed away at the age of 86, grandma is still around and will never hurt for money a day in her life.

They planned properly on a very modest income.

They sent both of their children to college.

They lived thru all of the same hard times that the rest of the elderly who did not plan properly and need bridge cards lived thru.

If you have worked all of your life and have nothing to show for it and need a bridge card to survive you planned poorly.
With this, you didn't say if your grandfather was a career navy guy or just served a few years. So, he may have had a pension from the navy and certainly had a pension from the PD. And granny may have a pension also. At the very least, they both had decent benefits for the era.

Now, consider that others may not. Consider the small time business owner that most considered the heart of America. The gas station owner, the small hardware merchant, barber, etc. These people were hard working Americans who got ate up by the growth of the big chain stores over the past 20 years. Many of these hard working people barely got by and most likely did not save as much as they would have liked. These are the people that I think deserve some compassion. NOT>>>>>>>>>>>> the lazy people that have been lifetime deadbeats.

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Then you are completely mis-reading my posts. I don't believe that I have made the best choices in life, there are plenty of things that I would like to change about certain things in my life, however, I have taken responsibility for all of my choices in life and I have learned from my mistakes.

I also don't expect anyone else to pay for my mistakes besides myself, at least once a week I drop everything I am doing to go lend 5 minutes to a friend and all of my friends have done the same for me.

But what I have not done is go and pay hancho's mortgage so he can sit on his ass all day and drink beer, smoke cigs, and be a lazy worthless fucking prick.



Tons of people that I know have made better choices for themselves than I have, tons of people make more money than I do, in fact although I am satisfied with my success in life, I'm barely above the "poverty line" and just clawing my way into the middle class.

I could care less what choices other people make in life, so long as I don't have to contribute my tax dollars to it, unfortunately that is not the case.

You see it's real annoying to see people who are milking the system live a higher standard of life than I get to enjoy, while I work 70 hour weeks and bust my ass to provide things for my kids and family.





My gl4x4 character is no different than my in person character, half of the people I will drop everything for and go help are people I have never met in real life and only know through gl4x4.

Hancho qualifies as one of those people, granted he was not totally helpless with out my help, but out of the blue he pm'd me and asked me a question a few years back, turns out I knew the answer, and he lived 3 miles away, so I went to his house to explain it and help him rather than over the interwebs.

The point? The same asshole typing this post went over to hancho's house with a case of beer to help out another internet asshole for no reason at all.

If you make poor choices in life and do not plan properly for YOUR future, why the fukc should my hard earned money that could be spent in a better fashion by our government be given to you instead of being spent on something that I would get enjyoment out of?

Look at it like this, I can either pay money for college kids and elderly and lazy fucks to milk the system because they either won't work hard enough for it, didn't work hard enough for it, or flat out just didn't plan well enough for it.

OR

I can pay my taxes and have the government invest additional money to state parks that I enjoy, off road trails, mountain bike trails, a better riverfront on the detroit river to boat and go to dinner at, better shitters at silver lake, additional summer jobs for college kids at all of our parks to make them nicer for those of us to enjoy, smoother roads, better education, etc.

I dunno about you, but me personally? I'd rather my tax dollars go to the second choice. Not to people who are poor planners, lazy, and system milkers.
^^^^^^^^ and this I totally agree with.
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Old August 17th, 2011, 08:52 AM   #90
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With this, you didn't say if your grandfather was a career navy guy or just served a few years. So, he may have had a pension from the navy and certainly had a pension from the PD. And granny may have a pension also. At the very least, they both had decent benefits for the era.

Now, consider that others may not. Consider the small time business owner that most considered the heart of America. The gas station owner, the small hardware merchant, barber, etc. These people were hard working Americans who got ate up by the growth of the big chain stores over the past 20 years. Many of these hard working people barely got by and most likely did not save as much as they would have liked. These are the people that I think deserve some compassion. NOT>>>>>>>>>>>> the lazy people that have been lifetime deadbeats.

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Gramma worked part time = no pension.

Grandpa was a navy guy for a few years, settled into law enforcement, worked in security at U of M for some time, retired, opened a restaurant, moved to florida, worked part time as a safety inspector for the orange grove, lived modestly his entire life and saved religiously.

I have some compassion for some of the people you speak of, but not a ton. We're on the same page, I'm just surprised you have AS much compassion for them as this thread indicates

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My compassion is that there are people who worked hard all their life and for whatever reason, Murphy's law hits them hard. On the other hand, I come from a set of parents that saved religiously and have had a comfortable retirement. I am on board with 99% of your comments.

I am not on board with a comment you made where you said something like "I have zero compassion". I'm not going to bother to go look for it, you would probably beat me to it and edit it.
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I have some compassion, zero was probably an exageration due to the annoyance of the amount of people who milk the systems.
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My compassion is that there are people who worked hard all their life and for whatever reason, Murphy's law hits them hard. On the other hand, I come from a set of parents that saved religiously and have had a comfortable retirement. I am on board with 99% of your comments.

I am not on board with a comment you made where you said something like "I have zero compassion". I'm not going to bother to go look for it, you would probably beat me to it and edit it.
I find that Murphy's law find people more often when they are ill prepared or think they'll save for retirement later.
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I plan to "milk" the system...now if I could only find that damn nipple

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Then you are completely mis-reading my posts.



I dunno about you, but me personally? I'd rather my tax dollars go to the second choice. Not to people who are poor planners, lazy, and system milkers.

Now I agree with you, must have been the way I interpreted the posts. But on the other hand, I do not agree with completely putting the squash on the Food Assistance Program. There are a lot of cases where it is certainly needed. But I do however agree that if in fact you do get assistance, and are not disabled, your ass should be doing community service or something of the sort.
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it's between my legs, about 6" below my belly button, open wide mother fucker.
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