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Old July 26th, 2011, 07:22 PM   #41
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I'm still undecided on the electric steering, something about not having the mechanical linkage on a system that important does sit well.
Umm, its an electric assist. All the mechanical linkages are still there.
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Old July 26th, 2011, 07:27 PM   #42
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I'm still undecided on the electric steering, something about not having the mechanical linkage on a system that important does sit well.
really? I didn't know ford used electric steering on anything?

or do you mean the EPAS? electric power assist?

EPAS and electric steering are different.

you still have a mechanical linkage to the rack, you just don't have any hydraulic fluid. Instead its an electric motor giving assist.

steer by wire is different and I could be wrong, but I don't think its even in any production cars in the states.



edit:Haggar went with the short and sweet answer and beat me... oh well.
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Old July 26th, 2011, 08:08 PM   #43
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A PLAN REQUIREMENTS: Members of the immediate family of the above. "Immediate family" means the following relatives of the employee or retiree:

Spouse
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I need to find a guy who works at ford to gay out with me for a day.
There is an xplan for friends and neighbors.
http://www.fairlaneford.com/ford-x-plan-pricing/
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Old July 26th, 2011, 08:31 PM   #44
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I thought I read there is no power steering pump being driven by the motor to help with fuel mileage. Isnt it an electric motor driving the steering box?

Maybe I read the arwrong wrong, I've been drunk a lot lately
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Old July 26th, 2011, 08:33 PM   #45
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ecoboost = WIN nuff said
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X plan isn't as good as A plan...
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Old July 26th, 2011, 08:43 PM   #47
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I thought I read there is no power steering pump being driven by the motor to help with fuel mileage. Isnt it an electric motor driving the steering box?

Maybe I read the arwrong wrong, I've been drunk a lot lately
In a hydraulic assist like whats on my 09 F150, its a mechanically driven rack and pinion, with a hydraulic system to help.

In a elecitric assist like whats on the new Ecoboost F150, its a mechanically driven rack and pinion, with an electric system to help.

There's no power steering pump. But that doesn't mean there's no mechanical linkage.
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right..
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I'm still undecided on the electric steering, something about not having the mechanical linkage on a system that important does sit well.
There's mechanical linkage: instead of using high pressure hydraulics to assist, it uses an electric motor. More efficient.
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Old July 26th, 2011, 09:05 PM   #50
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right..
X = suppliers and friends
A = employees and immediate family
Z = retirees and usually == A plan.
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X = suppliers and friends
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Z = retirees and usually == A plan.
That, and CC posted A plan info, she posted X plan.

But thats how it goes around here. Post what you want and we'll tell you thats wrong and what you really want is something else.
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That, and CC posted A plan info, she posted X plan.

But thats how it goes around here. Post what you want and we'll tell you thats wrong and what you really want is something else.
Right.. but he's not eligible so I was being helpful..
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X = suppliers and friends
A = employees and immediate family
Z = retirees and usually == A plan.
Considering we administer some of the plans.. I think I understand them pretty well.

also you forgot
D= dealership employees

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Old July 26th, 2011, 10:11 PM   #54
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I get the x plan because I'm cool...while not as good as the A plan I was still thankful and it save a ton of cash on the new foci
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Old July 26th, 2011, 11:05 PM   #55
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Buy a Power Wagon.
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Why buy a POS when you can buy a Ford for less
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Why buy a beautifully engineered work of art when you can buy a junk Ford for less
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Do they still make them?
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Right.. but he's not eligible so I was being helpful..
I was saying I might be eligible if I can hook up with a guy who worked at ford.


learnz should be picking up her new fusion from Dana over at suburban tomorrow. I'm still trying to find a male hookup.
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All I haz is teh supplier discount
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