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Old September 16th, 2006, 07:28 PM   #1
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i have a yj wrangler with a dana 30. i did a spring over and need to mount my drag link on top of the springs; and preferably leave the tie rod where it is. i made a tower from the old mounting point on the tie rod straigt up; that did not work. i need something that is inexpensive, doesn't require changing the knuckle style, and is tough. let me know if you have any tips please!! i want to get this thing going this week....
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i have a yj wrangler with a dana 30. i did a spring over and need to mount my drag link on top of the springs; and preferably leave the tie rod where it is. i made a tower from the old mounting point on the tie rod straigt up; that did not work. i need something that is inexpensive, doesn't require changing the knuckle style, and is tough. let me know if you have any tips please!! i want to get this thing going this week....
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Best way to go is the Tera Knuckle though for the D30. There is not a "strong, safe" way that is easy and inexpensive. Is this a daily driver or trail rig?
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i need something that is inexpensive, doesn't require changing the knuckle style, and is tough. let me know if you have any tips please!! i want to get this thing going this week....

That's easy - put the Jeep back the way it was.


Seriously, if you weren't prepared to do this the right way you shouldn't have done it at all. If you're going to stick with the 30, I agree with Noah's Ark. Otherwise, I would suggest a 78-79 F-250 HPD44. Its already SOA, already has flat-top knuckles with the driver's side studded, and has the same spring perch width as a YJ.
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That's easy - put the Jeep back the way it was.


Seriously, if you weren't prepared to do this the right way you shouldn't have done it at all. If you're going to stick with the 30, I agree with Noah's Ark. Otherwise, I would suggest a 78-79 F-250 HPD44. Its already SOA, already has flat-top knuckles with the driver's side studded, and has the same spring perch width as a YJ.
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what side is the drop on those?
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what side is the drop on those?

Driver! They are typically found with a D60 rear, so you just use both and buy 8-lug rims. This is what Leanz is running, except she's afraid of heights and is going SUA.


I've yet to see passenger HP anything except for what looked like a HPD80 under a Kodiak that I haven't found printed evidence of yet.
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Old September 17th, 2006, 01:15 PM   #6
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Best way to go is the Tera Knuckle though for the D30. There is not a "strong, safe" way that is easy and inexpensive. Is this a daily driver or trail rig?
Well close...

The BEST, CHEAPEST way is to find a WJ front axle in a junk yard (or all the outers.) Then you get crossover steering and nice big brakes.

Here in an old article I wrote that is missing the pictures....
http://www.evilmonkeymedia.com/dl/Wjsteering.htm




It was a NIGHT and Day difference. I put up with stock steering SOA for about a month before I had to get rid of it...
This is the 85mile ride home after the install at Brians house...



The EASIEST way would probably be the Tera Kit because you don't have to source parts and such.
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How much did that setup run you?

Looks like a lot of room - is there enough space under the springs for the tie-rod to be flipped?
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Now, to play devils advocate because I havent looked to closely at my knuckles in awhile.

I have an XJ, If I remember correctly the top of the knuckles IS flat, or pretty close. What would keep you from drilling out the knuckle and reaming a taper in to use a larger diameter tie rod or heim joint similar to the JCR kit (although I think you'd need larger diameter hardware than that to make it work)
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What would keep you from drilling out the knuckle and reaming a taper in to use a larger diameter tie rod or heim joint similar to the JCR kit?

Probably using the term "flat top" in reference to the correct area of the knuckle. The "top" is the area up by the ball joint. I may be misunderstanding you, but it sounds like you are talking about the top surface of the knuckle arm for the purpose of flipping the tie-rod on top. That area is not what the term "flat-top" is used to describe on a knuckle.
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Looks like a lot of room - is there enough space under the springs for the tie-rod to be flipped?
It was close, but no. I could have added a spacer on the springs and fit it, but that would have just been ghetto. Another problem would have been reaming the arms from the top on the passanger side with the upper arm in the way. All in all it wasn't worth the trouble to me.

I spent $150 on the knuckles, caliper mounts, calipers, and rotors. $50 on pads (my akibunco pads were way more $$ than teives style ) Built the spacers with the plasma cutter, then the steering rods and TRE's cost about $150 or so.

So a good $350 for better steering AND WAY better brakes. Less than setting up the brakes and steering on my d44 that is for sure
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That's easy - put the Jeep back the way it was.


Seriously, if you weren't prepared to do this the right way you shouldn't have done it at all. If you're going to stick with the 30, I agree with Noah's Ark. Otherwise, I would suggest a 78-79 F-250 HPD44. Its already SOA, already has flat-top knuckles with the driver's side studded, and has the same spring perch width as a YJ.
If you want to keep a 5 X 5.5 axle find the ones out of the extended cab f150's of the same model year they are spring over and have 5 bolt hubs.
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If you want to keep a 5 X 5.5 axle find the ones out of the extended cab f150's of the same model year they are spring over and have 5 bolt hubs.

Go through the 1st two links here to see the differences in all these axles.
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