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Old July 12th, 2011, 06:38 AM   #1
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AP Sources: GM To Sell Diesel Chevy Cruze In US

POSTED: Monday, July 11, 2011
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DETROIT -- Two people briefed on the matter say General Motors has decided to sell a diesel version of the Chevrolet Cruze car in the United States.

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They say the car would get about 50 miles per gallon on the highway and help GM meet stricter government fuel economy standards.

http://www.clickondetroit.com/automo...33/detail.html
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Old July 12th, 2011, 06:45 AM   #2
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could be interesting.

I like diesel stuff.
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Old July 12th, 2011, 06:57 AM   #4
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Might be a year or so, but I would buy one
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Old July 12th, 2011, 06:58 AM   #5
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Old July 12th, 2011, 07:01 AM   #6
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Old July 12th, 2011, 07:12 AM   #7
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GM will probably tack on another 10k to what the gasser sells for.
Cheaper than the volt will be the sales pitch
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I wonder how long it will be until some hill jack has one with an 8" stack coming out of the hood.
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Old July 12th, 2011, 07:52 AM   #9
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I wonder how long it will be until some hill jack has one with an 8" stack coming out of the hood.
5 minutes after hacksaw buys one.
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GM will probably tack on another 10k to what the gasser sells for.
It isn't any OEMs fault that the technology to make diesel engines coexist with the US government costs roughy $3500 per vehicle more than a gas motor, and that doesn't take into account the fact the motors are generally more expensinve themselves (turbos, etc).

I think this is an interesting idea, but it is also the kind of idea that put GM out of business before....
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Old July 12th, 2011, 10:20 AM   #14
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What would be the point?

The "eco" gas models with the non turbo motor and the 6speed are knocking down mid 40s mpg.....by the time you figure in the higher purchase price, higher maintenance cost, and higher fuel cost it will cost you more to drive the diesel than the gas version.
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What would be the point?

The "eco" gas models with the non turbo motor and the 6speed are knocking down mid 40s mpg.....by the time you figure in the higher purchase price, higher maintenance cost, and higher fuel cost it will cost you more to drive the diesel than the gas version.
Sooo...it will be the hot new thing for a few months then after the novelty wears off its going to tank big time?
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What would be the point?

The "eco" gas models with the non turbo motor and the 6speed are knocking down mid 40s mpg.....by the time you figure in the higher purchase price, higher maintenance cost, and higher fuel cost it will cost you more to drive the diesel than the gas version.
depends on how long you drive it, and how much more expensive it is up front.
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I think that since gas prices and fuel economy are the hot topic these days if they come out with a good marketing campaign touting its 50mpg the people will buy them even if when you break it down it makes no sense.

Look at the Smart cars. They get slightly better fuel economy than some of the smaller Fords and Chevys and similar economy to some of the smaller Toyotas and Hondas. Yet people still spend a lot of money on them even though they look like clown cars.

Same thing for the Volt. Ignoring the subsidies because those will go away eventually. Its a $40,000 car that needs to be plugged into the grid for hours on end to get 40 miles before it goes back into fossil mode once again only getting slightly better fuel economy than whats out there for half the price.
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Look at the Smart cars. They get slightly better fuel economy than some of the smaller Fords and Chevys and similar economy to some of the smaller Toyotas and Hondas. Yet people still spend a lot of money on them even though they look like clown cars.

Same thing for the Volt. Ignoring the subsidies because those will go away eventually. Its a $40,000 car that needs to be plugged into the grid for hours on end to get 40 miles before it goes back into fossil mode once again only getting slightly better fuel economy than whats out there for half the price.
neither of those examples are selling for a shit (or making their OEMs profit). Those are cars that are built and sold in the thousands, not hundreds of thousands.
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neither of those examples are selling for a shit (or making their OEMs profit). Those are cars that are built and sold in the thousands, not hundreds of thousands.
Do you think a diesel Cruze would be any different as far as volumes?
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Do you think a diesel Cruze would be any different as far as volumes?
I think they would sell alot beter than a smart car or volt. I'm still not sure that an OEM can swing a profit off it. Not even VW can make a profit off diesels in america alone, and they are very good at TDI.

I defenetly think an OEM is going to have to attempt it again within the next 2-3 years, and it iwll be an interesting test for the american public. Personally, with the price of diesel at a steady 10-15% increase over regular fuel, I don't think they will sell that well. The average american is far too short-minded to buy a more expensive vehicle now and have it pay off 4+ years down the road. A lot of new car buyers will continue to buy new cars every ~3 years or so, so they are more concerned with initial investment cost rather than 4+ year returns.
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