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Old February 14th, 2010, 08:08 PM   #1
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Detroit, Spool (update) now you can say I told you so

Well, it appears my Detroit Locker in my Dana 60 is taking a crap. It now pops when loaded up hard, especially when the tires are turned. It seems that the "cadillac" of lockers is a Detroit but I also hear when a shaft or hub goes, D60 Detroits are prone to failure. Mind you, I've never broken anything in the front that would have caused the Detroit to start to fail. And although I wheel fairly hard, I don't beat on it like some do. On the contrary, I've never heard of anyone breaking a Lockrite in a D60. And of course a spool is pretty much bullet proof. I'm not interested in spending the money on an ARB.

It's obvious that if I go spool that I need to stay with lockouts as opposed to drive flanges. I can see where it would be a pain at times. On the other hand, there's nothing to break.

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Old February 14th, 2010, 08:10 PM   #2
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do you drive it on the street? if not spool it up.

any chance detroit will warrenty your locker?
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Old February 14th, 2010, 08:13 PM   #3
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Old February 14th, 2010, 08:17 PM   #4
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For your use, the Lockright wouldn't be a good choice. Wheel up wheeling would leave you wanting a locker or spool.

I question what the hell could be wrong with your Detroit though???
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Old February 14th, 2010, 08:32 PM   #5
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For your use, the Lockright wouldn't be a good choice. Wheel up wheeling would leave you wanting a locker or spool.

I question what the hell could be wrong with your Detroit though???
????? A Lockrite is a locker. Works the same as a Detroit except it's an adder to an existing carrier instead of a full on replacement.

Tell me who has broken a lockrite in a D60?
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Old February 14th, 2010, 08:37 PM   #6
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For your use, the Lockright wouldn't be a good choice. Wheel up wheeling would leave you wanting a locker or spool.
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Old February 14th, 2010, 08:38 PM   #7
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For your use, the Lockright wouldn't be a good choice. Wheel up wheeling would leave you wanting a locker or spool.

I question what the hell could be wrong with your Detroit though???
x2 I've never heard anybody have a problem with a Detroit, I've ran two of them in the front of two different rigs and always liked them. As for my opinion if it was for strick whellin' spool in the front selectable in the back.
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Old February 14th, 2010, 08:38 PM   #8
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lol. Your right. I'm dumb. For some reason I was thinking about the truetrac. I guess I should have taking a chance to think before typing. I'll go back to my corner now.
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Old February 14th, 2010, 08:39 PM   #9
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????? A Lockrite is a locker. Works the same as a Detroit except it's an adder to an existing carrier instead of a full on replacement.

Tell me who has broken a lockrite in a D60?
There have been broken stock carriers though. Are you sure its your detroit? I think you can get certain parts for it if need be. I can pull it and rebuild it if need be.....while you install the 35 spliners.
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I say spool it. With the problems i keep hearing about the detroits i cant see spending the money one one.
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Old February 14th, 2010, 08:44 PM   #11
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There have been broken stock carriers though. Are you sure its your detroit? I think you can get certain parts for it if need be. I can pull it and rebuild it if need be.....while you install the 35 spliners.
True, I should probably do some research on Pirate. Some guys were talking today that the parts for a Detroit are almost as much as the full carrier. Personally I think it's bullshit that the king of lockers failed this soon.
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Old February 14th, 2010, 08:44 PM   #12
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I say spool it. With the problems i keep hearing about the detroits i cant see spending the money one one.
I'm curious, what probelms have you been hearing about detroits?
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Old February 14th, 2010, 09:10 PM   #13
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I say lockrite, but I am just a web wheeler. I have heard/seen alot of 60 detroit failures
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Old February 14th, 2010, 09:16 PM   #14
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I'd say spool it or weld up a stock carrier. But I'd really like to know what happened with the detroit.
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Old February 14th, 2010, 10:00 PM   #15
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My guess is a weak or broken engagement spring.
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Old February 14th, 2010, 10:18 PM   #16
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have you thrown a fit with Detroit yet? Seems like thats the best place to start. They might work with you on replacement parts at least. COuld be a fluke.

If you end up going a different route seems like a spool is the least likely to ever have an issue again. as for lock outs, I have them and it sucks when you blow a fuse in it, saves your shafts but ends the wheeling unless you have extra's. I carry one extra lock out with me now just in case it happens again. What about those dyna trac lock outs with a spool though? I haven't had the coin, otherwise I would have researched them more...
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Spool in front = suck
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Old February 14th, 2010, 10:35 PM   #18
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I wouldn't be worried about a lunchbox failing, I'd be worried about a stock carrier failing.

I hate front spools. They may be livable with a rear selectable, but every time my Aussie broke and locked up I had a hell of a time finding and staying on my line. With the ARB I could unlock it to get lined up. I have a Detroit front now with no issues yet.
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Old February 14th, 2010, 11:41 PM   #19
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if its just a spring i saw them on escam pretty cheap a while back. if you didnt grenade a shaft or joint at some point while bound up id bet its something fixable. they are pretty stout usually.

if its completly fubar then a lockright or ez locker and drive flanges. it will unlock when in 2wd.
i have broke more hubs that anything else. i hate them things.

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Old February 15th, 2010, 05:23 AM   #20
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I haven't pulled it yet. It's been popping occasionally but I haven't been able to isolate it. Yesterday while at Bundy Hill I was Warn Valley with spectators on each side. I was hung up and working it enough times for people to form an opinion. It seemed to be only when I was turning or getting some wheel bounce where it appeared to be loading and unloading.

Some people have said a weak spring, other say the corners get rounded off. I would opt for the corners as springs don't typically lose their set, especially in the short time this has been together.

RE spool in the front, I feel my ARB (in my old D44) performed better. With an ARB or spool, there is no reversal action. I find with the Detroit that when trying to maneuver in difficult situations that the rear spool is hooking up first before the Detroit decides to kick in. Therefore, performance of a spool or ARB is desirable. The downside is the binding in semi good traction areas.

I guess it really depends on the cost to rebuild it. It seems stupid to be putting big bucks into it with less than 2 years on it.
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