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Old December 14th, 2010, 05:10 PM   #1
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Check it, I am in need of a car trailer to tow the Jeep around. I can't find anything less than 2500 dollars, and i am kind of a cheap skate. I found a old equipment trailer for 400 dollars in my area. the only problem is the damn thing is only 5ft wide, it is 20ft long however.

My question is would it be feesable and safe to extent it out of the sides to accomidate the jeep? The damn thing has 7000 lb torsion axles on it and it looks sound with only minimum surface rust on it.

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Old December 14th, 2010, 05:21 PM   #2
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You're asking wide open questions with not enough information. Pics of the current frame would be very helpful.
Do you have access to the steel and wood you will need to widen it?
What is the current track width of the axles.
Does it have fenders?
If so, are they going to be reusable?
If not, are you going to build or buy new ones?
Do you have the capability to do the work or do you need to hire it done?
Do you have a location capable of handling that size trailer or do you need to rent space?
Have you priced out the difference between upgrading and buying new?

Finally, there are usable trailers around that go for less than $2500, especially used ones.

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Old December 14th, 2010, 06:15 PM   #3
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More info:

Steel and wood are not a problem, I am in camp lejeune and we have a "hobby shop" that can get any materials needed at heavy discounts

I have stock track width, so whatever that is, I think outside wheel to outside wheel is about 6ft

no fenders

i will fab up some drive over fenders

i can weld, hobby shop charges 2 dollars an hour to use their Miller's

hobby shop can handle trailer size

haven't priced out to the T but have a general idea

I am having trouble finding decent trailers in NC for under 2500

My main question is: how does one go about widening a trailer, while maintaining integrity so the widened part doesn't break with the first road bump you hit?

here are the best pics i can get




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Old December 20th, 2010, 01:58 PM   #4
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Turned this into a build thread, got the trailer for 300 dollars......figured i couldn't pass it up.

This is the i brought it home, gonna start hacking off the Channel pieces that were stuck on the sides, trailers got some surface rust going so after its widened i am gonna POR the piss outta the bottem......Ideas of how to widen? I am thinking of running the same 2X5X1/4 for the outside parts, then run 1 1/2 By square tube every 12" OC for the supports...what do you think?





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I would just built outer runners that just weld on to the outside of the existing frame before and after the tires. I've seel lots of guys do that and it works out fine. You can also add storage in those spots as well if you hinge the wood. You could build it 12-16 inches wide and end up with a trailer plenty wide enough for your needs.

The only thing that I would worry about would be the strength of the existing frame. It looks pretty weathered and rusted.
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that shouldnt be to hard to do at all
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I would just built outer runners that just weld on to the outside of the existing frame before and after the tires. I've seel lots of guys do that and it works out fine. You can also add storage in those spots as well if you hinge the wood. You could build it 12-16 inches wide and end up with a trailer plenty wide enough for your needs.

The only thing that I would worry about would be the strength of the existing frame. It looks pretty weathered and rusted.
Yea its pretty rusted, its just surface rust, the integrity is still there. plenty enough for a heep anyways.

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The base trailer you have is no different than most trailers. Almost all trailers have a straight front-to-back runner that supports the springs. So, you are good there. Now you just need to get some similar sized rectangular tubing and weld pieces perpindicular to the main runner. Then cap it with another runner from the front to the tires and from the tires to the rear. Deck over it, add fenders and you are done.
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the best pic I have of my trailer...I can go out and snap some more if you need me to....it is all 1.5x1.5 frame work to the outside of the tires and over the fenders stake pockets are still there.The guy that had this trailer had a 4 seat buggy on rockwells and 49's....I have had a 3500 chevy dually loaded backwards and the fenders never flinched

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Thanks for the input people.. after talking with the Old dudes at the weld shop on base we came up with a plan.

The supports are gonna be diamond plate, in a triangle fashion with a bend at the top for strength. We are gonna take flat bar and cap the diamond as a runner. we went this way for wieght purposes, should be plenty strong enough for years of hauling.

got a little work done on it today

measuring the diamond


Cutting the diamond


diamond cut


this is what they are going to look like


diamond bent


Laid out to get our numbers right


what they are going to look like


front left corner supports done


Couple more pics





This is where i left off today, can't get back over there untill sunday. We used the diamond because they had a bunch laying around, got it for around 50 dollars.... after its all said and done should have around 600 dollars into the whole thing, including buying the trailer. not too bad for a 14K lb trailer IMO.
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Old December 26th, 2010, 04:34 PM   #11
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Got a little bit more done today, hopefully i have the metal finished next week so i can start hanging the lights.








Pics are shitty cell phone pics, didn't have la camera
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Before you get the fenders finished, now would be an easier time to freshen up the trailers brakes or put some on if it doesn't have any. It's looking good.
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Old December 26th, 2010, 04:52 PM   #13
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Brakes are for pussies.

Nice trailer.
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Before you get the fenders finished, now would be an easier time to freshen up the trailers brakes or put some on if it doesn't have any. It's looking good.
Yea man, I was thinking about that. Problem is the trailer is at the weld shop on base, they have som bullshit holiday hours..... I.E. next chance forto weld on it is gonna be wed and thurs. The fender design i have in mind is going to not cover the whole tire..if that makes any sense. I will still have no problems pulling off the tires and drums. And both axles are brake axles so that is double the fun.

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I would agree and the 1-ton has enough ass to stop it. But trailer brakes on icy roads will save your hindquarters.
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I would agree and the 1-ton has enough ass to stop it. But trailer brakes on icy roads will save your hindquarters.
Yeah, I was just being a smartass. With the jeep on the trailer, it needs brakes. They will save your ass in more than just icy roads.
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I just fabbed up my trailer from 73'' out to 93'' plus added a two foot dovetail. nice job
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I made my trailer from some nice 3" angle iron and a couple of jeep Dana 35's cause people practically throw those damn things out.. I think i have MAYBE $300 into my 22' trailer
now i can pull the s10 my quad my dads quad and my buddy's quad all up north with one vehicle
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I made my trailer from some nice 3" angle iron and a couple of jeep Dana 35's cause people practically throw those damn things out.. I think i have MAYBE $300 into my 22' trailer
now i can pull the s10 my quad my dads quad and my buddy's quad all up north with one vehicle
got any pictures of it? are those 35's strong enough for all that wieght? Eventually i am going to build a 25 ft bumper pull with 7K axles so i can fab up a small camper on the front, maybe make it removable so i can haul th occasional mulit vehicle. I didn't have time to build and whole trailer and i am not set up for it yet, one of these days i will have a custom.
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Haven't had very many chances to work on the trailer. Got it home though and put the jeep on it. Had to see how much it settled, so i can build the drive over fenders. Started doing lights, lights should be wrapped up tonight.

Heres a couple pics of jeep on trailer









All i have left to do is ramps, fenders, lights and tie down points. Should not take too long, just need to find the time.
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Looks good man. X a billion on the brakes- and depending on what states you plan to roll through to go wheeling, it may be required! I've heard of guys getting their rigs impounded in IN.
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