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Old September 4th, 2011, 01:39 PM   #61
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I was able to pull a solid avg of 15 mpg hauling this load up the dunes a couple weekends ago.. backed down to 65mph and wasnt in a hurry .
the front quad catches a lot of wind,
Most will probably call you a liar but I consistantly get 15.5-16 unloaded out of my 07 classic 6.0. 65mph seems to be the sweet spot for milleage in these trucks, my 03 performed the same way. I run 285s on both trucks, the 03 had intake, exhaust, & programmer. The 07 just has a bullydog gt.
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Old September 5th, 2011, 07:56 AM   #62
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Truck:
2005 Dodge quad cab short bed
Drive:
4WD
Engine:
5.9 Cummins
Trans:
48RE automatic (4 speed)
Axle ratio:
3.73:1
Tires:
285/75R17 (34" dia)
Mods:
Cap, freewheeling hubs, smarty tuner used intermittently

"Best" fuel economy (a useless number really): 20 mpg, empty, all highway, no cap, 65mph, Smarty set to max economy (too much smoke)

Average Fuel Economy Empty (~7200 lbs):
16 city 18 highway

Fuel Economy Towing: from 12 to 15
towing the Jimmy @ 70mph with ac on = 12.6 mpg (~15,300 lbs)

Mpg for 97K miles with maybe 40% towing various loads = 16.01

No on the fly resets. No instantaneous mpg numbers. No one tank wonders from short filling the tank. All mpg hand calculated, speedo corrected. Lie-o-meter starts at 2 mpg optimistic and goes up from there (done so since new).
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Old September 6th, 2011, 11:44 AM   #63
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Update on new tow rig.

Truck:
2011 GMC Sierra 2500HD
Drive:
4WD
Engine:
6.0L L96 Petrol
Trans:
6 speed auto
Axle ratio:
3.73:1
Tires:
265/70R18
Mods:
None

Best Fuel Economy Empty (6900 lb):
18 mpg

Best Fuel Economy Loaded (13,000 lb combined):
10.4 mpg averaged over 400 mile trip

Load / Driving:
Pop-up truck camper, 6x12 enclosed trailer / cruise control set on 65.


I was hoping to get 10 mpg loaded up, and it came in a little higher - so I am happy. 10 mpg was the "break even" number for a gas engine to equal the equipment premium for a diesel (not including the increased maintenance costs) - figuring 200,000 miles of driving.

I'm happy.
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Old September 18th, 2011, 06:40 PM   #64
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Update:
tow rig has same specs but just pulled 11.9 round trip to Drummond island over the weekend doing 65-70mph,and of course a short stretch of 55-60 in there...could have used some airbags but pulled great....not sure on the weight...taking a guess at 21-22k for truck/trailer,supplies and 4 people

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Old September 19th, 2011, 08:17 AM   #65
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Update on new tow rig.

Truck:
2007 Dodge 2500
Drive:
4WD
Engine:
6.7L CTD
Trans:
6 speed auto
Axle ratio:

Tires: 285/75/17's

Mods:5" Turbo back, H&S MiniMax, EGR delete


Best empty MPG 18.5 (Now with Mods 20)

Hauling the Dakota on my flatbed. 12MPG (With Mods 10 hauling three rigs)



Update

New trailer 9.2 mpg over a 1,000 mile trip
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Old September 19th, 2011, 08:23 PM   #66
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tow rig has same specs but just pulled 11.9 round trip to Drummond island over the weekend doing 65-70mph,and of course a short stretch of 55-60 in there...could have used some airbags but pulled great....not sure on the weight...taking a guess at 21-22k for truck/trailer,supplies and 4 people

throwing a personal cent in, it looks like that trailer is alot front heavy. Should have loaded one rig backwards, at least that makes since to me?
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Old September 19th, 2011, 09:29 PM   #67
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throwing a personal cent in, it looks like that trailer is alot front heavy. Should have loaded one rig backwards, at least that makes since to me?
had it sitting level and had some bad sway....so did some adjusting on the side of the road and that is the only way it would not sway....stock springs on the EX's bring the suck with any weight...been looking for a set of stock springs for an f350
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Old September 19th, 2011, 09:43 PM   #68
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I've had 4 tow rigs, and I drive pretty conservatively (about 65 mph towing my 12,000 gvwr flatbed trailer)- all numbers hand calculated, I do almost every tank 1. 1978 Ford F-250 Crew shortbed 4x4, 400M, Four speed, 4.11 gears, stock tires - about 12 around town, 8-9 towing. 2. 1998 Silverado 3500 crew dually 4x4, 454 with K&N cold air kit, 4l80E, stock tires - 10 flat empty, 6-8 towing, 5.8 towing with slide in camper installed. 2004 Hemi Durango, 33 all terrains, auto, 4x4, gears unknown - 16 empty, 14-15 towing (best towing vehicle I've ever seen, even pulled 35 foot boat with ease) 1948 35 foot GMC Greyhound Bus, 6-71 Detroit Diesel, Four speed, 42 inch tires, 4.11 gears - 12 mpg all around.
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Old September 20th, 2011, 09:30 AM   #69
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One more for the list, my dd: 1997 Cherokee 4x4, 4 door, five speed, 4.0, 3.07 gears, Everything stock with exception to front lunchbox locker. Unloaded it gets a consistant 25 mpg. I often tow a small trailer behind it. Trailer one is a 10 foot snowmobile unit with tiny tires and a big fold up gate that is slightly wider than the jeep. With one snowmobile, one quad, and one bike loaded onto it I'm lucky to get 12 mpg. Trailer 2 is a flat deck 8 foot unit with standard car tires that is slightly narrower than the jeep. With two enduros loaded onto it I get 20-22 mpg.
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Old September 20th, 2011, 01:24 PM   #70
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Truck:
2008 Ford F-350, 4 door, long box, single rear wheel.
Drive:
Four Wheel Drive
Engine:
6.4L Twin Turbo, Powerstroke Diesel
Trans:
6 speed auto
Axle ratio:
3.73:1
Tires:
BFGoodrich All Terrains, 305/55R20

Average Fuel Economy Empty (8500 lb):
15 mpg

Average Fuel Economy Hauling (25,000 lb combined):
10 mpg averaged over 5,000 mile trip to California and back.

Load / Driving:
25' Corn Pro, Triple axle, Single Wheel, tag trailer (21,000 lb Rated)
30' Corn Pro, Tandem axle, Dual Wheel, Gooseneck trailer (20,000 lb Rated)

The pic is of my truck, trailer, jeep, and a buddy's jeep, on our way home from Drummond Island this spring.

The 25' trailer is mine and the 30' is my buddy's. We’ve discussed a lot about the likes and dislikes of both. They both pull about the same and I don't notice a fuel mileage difference either. I think the triple/single, pulls a little straighter but it also turns a little bit harder. I think my next trailer will be a gooseneck, with triple axles and single wheels. This configuration, I think, would be the straightest, and smoothest, setup.

We just got back this summer from a trip out west where we took my truck with his trailer. We went out to the Rubicon trail in California for a week, and then stopped in Moab for 4 days on the way home. We put 5,000 miles on the truck and averaged 10 mpg. I do like to move right along, and tend to run somewhere between 75 and 80mph. We stopped in Iowa and had the truck and trailer scaled and we were at 27,000 lbs total. We were happy with the 10 mpg's considering the weight, speed, and variety of terrain.

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Old September 20th, 2011, 01:35 PM   #71
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truck- 1988 gmc 3500 regular cab long bed srw
drive- 4x4
ratio-410
engine-454


best fuel econ- 11
worst- 5
towing- about 7 if i keep my foot out of it 13,500 combined
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Old October 1st, 2011, 04:13 PM   #72
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05, f350, 3.73, 6.0 psd, auto, stock, (po installed k&n cold air-so that its coming off)came with 35-12.50-18 BFG km2s

(below are outside cold temp milage), no tune
13.8-14 DD local stuff
18.5 to 19.2 highway 55-65 mph (milage driving)
16.5 @ highway 75 - 78mph

flat tow TJ
55-60 14.5
75 mph 11.6-11.9

mid size car on trailer

65-70 13.4


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tow trailer avg load (S-10 Blazer) no tune , 75mph 14.5 - 15 mpg

hi way - with prefom tune, not towing @ 80mph 18.3 mpg
hi way - with stock tune 17 mpg @ 80mph




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Old October 16th, 2011, 07:56 PM   #73
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Truck: 94 Dodge 2500 extended cab long bed 4x4
Engine: 8.0L V10
Trans: 47RH (four speed)
Tires: 265
Gears: whatever was in them from the factory.
Mods: seafoamed the engine once

Load: what ever I feel like pulling. Usually a 5600# equipment trailer or a 30 foot tag camper.

Unloaded mpg: 11
Loaded: 10-11 mpg

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Old November 10th, 2011, 01:17 PM   #74
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01 Ram 2500, nv 4500, 4x4, 3.55's, Cummins, 295-75-16 Terragrapplers, rclb.
Stock except 4" turbo back and airdog fuel system

Empty - 15-17 all city, 18+ mixed or highway @ 70 or less

Towing 6-8k worth of trailer and trailrig - 14-17 under 70, 10-12 over 70
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Old January 21st, 2012, 09:06 AM   #75
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Truck:
2003 Dodge Ram 1500 4X4 Quad Cab
Drive:
4WD
Engine:
4.7
Trans:
Auto - 5speed
Axle ratio:
3.92
Tires:
265/70R17
Mods:
None

Best Fuel Economy Empty
22 mpg @55mph; around town is 13.

Best Fuel Economy Loaded
12 mpg

Load / Driving:
dirt bikes on a trailer or a large pop-up.
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Old January 21st, 2012, 07:57 PM   #76
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Truck:
2000 F250 ECLB
Drive:
4WD
Engine:
7.3
Trans:
Manual 6-speed
Axle ratio:
3.73
Tires:
315/75r16 (35's)
Mods:
4" turbo back straight pipe
K&N air filter
DP 6 position tuner stock, high idle, Towing 60hp, econo 80hp, and fun 120hp

Best Fuel Economy Empty
18.39mpg doing 65-70

Best Fuel Economy Loaded
Have not towed far enough to calculate and don't even bother when plowing.
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Old February 10th, 2012, 03:14 PM   #77
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New tow rig specs:

1997 Dodge 2500 extended cab 2wd with only 508,000 miles on it.

NV4500 five speed stick

5.9 Cummins with boost elbow and fuel plate work. Supposedly about 400 hp, and feels like it. It will break tires loose in 4th gear at 45 mph!

3.55 gears in rear and 30 inch tires

I've driven all over country in last two months with it and I've gotten 18-25 towing, 22-31mpg empty.

Seems if I keep it under 2,000 rpm about 65 mph empty I can average 28-30 mpg all day.
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Old February 11th, 2012, 02:25 PM   #78
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30 mpg lol
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Old February 11th, 2012, 02:52 PM   #79
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New tow rig specs:

1997 Dodge 2500 extended cab 2wd with only 508,000 miles on it.

NV4500 five speed stick

5.9 Cummins with boost elbow and fuel plate work. Supposedly about 400 hp, and feels like it. It will break tires loose in 4th gear at 45 mph!

3.55 gears in rear and 30 inch tires

I've driven all over country in last two months with it and I've gotten 18-25 towing, 22-31mpg empty.

Seems if I keep it under 2,000 rpm about 65 mph empty I can average 28-30 mpg all day.
I know the cummins gets better mileage than my PSD but I didnt think it was that much better. Whoa!!!

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Old February 25th, 2012, 09:46 PM   #80
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I know the cummins gets better mileage than my PSD but I didnt think it was that much better. Whoa!!!

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he is not lying...he is getting 30mpg in a truck it can be done

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