d44 cast wedges - Great Lakes 4x4. The largest offroad forum in the Midwest

Go Back   Great Lakes 4x4. The largest offroad forum in the Midwest > 4x4 Talk > Axle Tech
GL4x4 Live! GL4x4 Casino

greatlakes4x4.com is the premier Great Lakes 4x4 Forum on the internet. Registered Users do not see the above ads.
Search
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old June 21st, 2011, 11:16 AM   #1
2fst4you
Senior Member
 
2fst4you's Avatar
 
Join Date: 12-30-07
Location: White Lake, MI
Posts: 3,176
iTrader: (9)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Default d44 cast wedges

I'm looking to buy a d44 that is set up for radius arms. I want to make it a 3 link when it goes in my jeep. It has cast wedges so what can I do about this?
2fst4you is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old June 21st, 2011, 11:18 AM   #2
94jimmyjr
Senior Member
 
94jimmyjr's Avatar
 
Join Date: 10-06-08
Location: owosso michigan
Posts: 1,084
iTrader: (7)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Default

plasma cut them off...
94jimmyjr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 21st, 2011, 11:26 AM   #3
Jeeperz Creeperz
Senior Member
 
Jeeperz Creeperz's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-08-05
Location: Wyandotte, MI
Posts: 3,120
iTrader: (13)
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Send a message via ICQ to Jeeperz Creeperz Send a message via AIM to Jeeperz Creeperz Send a message via MSN to Jeeperz Creeperz Send a message via Yahoo to Jeeperz Creeperz
Default

Use the Ford radius arms and a track bar.....

Use the Ford radius arms and convert the other end to a flex joint....

Ignore them and weld your own brackets on......
Jeeperz Creeperz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 21st, 2011, 11:33 AM   #4
2fst4you
Senior Member
 
2fst4you's Avatar
 
Join Date: 12-30-07
Location: White Lake, MI
Posts: 3,176
iTrader: (9)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Default

Would I be able to weld to the cast? Can a plasma cut through a wedge that thick.....
2fst4you is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 21st, 2011, 11:38 AM   #5
bigbchevy
missmrgreenagain
 
bigbchevy's Avatar
 
Join Date: 09-15-07
Location: fenton /hartland mi
Posts: 19,029
iTrader: (167)
Mentioned: 51 Post(s)
Default

PEOPLE can weld to cast it just takes more to do it
__________________
H.o.r.e
(mr.green)So you are calling CC a liar?? Not a nice way to treat your bitch.
tube bending and gear installs pm me for info! gears installed for $150 and up per axle.
bigbchevy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 21st, 2011, 11:43 AM   #6
whiterhino
I'm not old, honest...
 
whiterhino's Avatar
 
Join Date: 03-07-06
Location: Davisburg MI
Posts: 21,368
iTrader: (21)
Mentioned: 12 Post(s)
Default

What should you do? Pay attention to the advice you got in the other thread you just started.

You wonder why people pick on you. Well, here's a perfect example. You start a thread wondering what you should do. NO ONE GAVE YOU D44 ADVICE FOR YOUR FRONT END. But, you're ready to buy one anyway. Why did you bother to ask if your mind was already made up? After all, you just started the other thread this morning at 3:37am. There's no doubt that you already had this one lined up and were just looking for reassurance that you should buy it. No one did but you want to anyway.

Here's my advice. Don't ask questions. Just do whatever you want.
__________________
GLFWDA member since 1979.
Member Southern Michigan Rock Crawlers.
whiterhino is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 21st, 2011, 12:11 PM   #7
Haggar
Covered in mud...
 
Haggar's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-06-05
Location: Oxford, MI
Posts: 17,649
iTrader: (55)
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 94jimmyjr View Post
plasma cut them off...
Wrong, there's no tube under them.
Haggar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 21st, 2011, 12:11 PM   #8
2fst4you
Senior Member
 
2fst4you's Avatar
 
Join Date: 12-30-07
Location: White Lake, MI
Posts: 3,176
iTrader: (9)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Default

I want to buy this d44. I did listen to your advice and I want a d60 but this 44 is already built and a sixty would be alot more money then I have. The d44 will fit my needs so I will get it and upgrade to a one ton axle in the future if needed. Whiterhino you said for good shafts in a d44 it would be $1000 if this axle wasnt already built if get a d60 but it is. The ? about the cast wedges just came up because my buddy gave me some insight about. If people can weld to cast or I can cut these wedges off and run a 3 link then this axle will work. I appreciate everyones help but for my needs this is a perfect axle. You guys answered my ?s and now im making a decision. Thanks

Last edited by 2fst4you; June 21st, 2011 at 12:14 PM.
2fst4you is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 21st, 2011, 12:14 PM   #9
Haggar
Covered in mud...
 
Haggar's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-06-05
Location: Oxford, MI
Posts: 17,649
iTrader: (55)
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Default

Two main options with those axles:

1) Use the Ford Radius arms
2) Have the axle retubed.

I have a few pairs of those axles, will be changing it to a passenger side diff and retubing the drivers side.
Haggar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 21st, 2011, 12:16 PM   #10
2fst4you
Senior Member
 
2fst4you's Avatar
 
Join Date: 12-30-07
Location: White Lake, MI
Posts: 3,176
iTrader: (9)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Default

How will the radius arms compare to a 3 link? How do I got about retubing....
2fst4you is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 21st, 2011, 12:28 PM   #11
whiterhino
I'm not old, honest...
 
whiterhino's Avatar
 
Join Date: 03-07-06
Location: Davisburg MI
Posts: 21,368
iTrader: (21)
Mentioned: 12 Post(s)
Default

OK, I hear your arguement. Just an FYI so you don't think I'm picking on you, I went the exact same route and spent the money on alloy shafts. Then I witnessed a D44 chromo stub shaft break in a parking lot on a log with a 37" tire. That's when I realized going to a 60 was the only way to go.

RE your question, radius arms work pretty good but won't give you the flex of a fully linked axle. If you're not sure what they are, look at any full size Bronco or F150 from the late 70's to 80's. This would be by far the cheapest way to go. Take Hag gar up on his offer.
__________________
GLFWDA member since 1979.
Member Southern Michigan Rock Crawlers.
whiterhino is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 21st, 2011, 12:39 PM   #12
2fst4you
Senior Member
 
2fst4you's Avatar
 
Join Date: 12-30-07
Location: White Lake, MI
Posts: 3,176
iTrader: (9)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Default

Thanks! I just feel like $700 for an axle that has everything I want is a steal and something I cant pass up on....but i could be wrong?

Idk how to retube an axle.....this easier or would welding to the cast be? I want a 3 link!

I would but I have an axle in mind
Built dana 44 and matching 8.8 full width - Great Lakes 4x4. The largest offroad forum in the Midwest
2fst4you is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 21st, 2011, 01:27 PM   #13
thrill20
Senior Member
 
thrill20's Avatar
 
Join Date: 07-20-07
Location: Grand Rapids, MI
Posts: 2,163
iTrader: (24)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Default

http://www.greatlakes4x4.com/showthread.php?t=209013

Bolt on to factory wedges.... and the best flex you can get out of radius arms.

google james duff arms, or cage radius ams. same design, but cage went out of business.


http://www.fullsizebronco.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1888699&postcount=5
thrill20 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 21st, 2011, 02:22 PM   #14
Haggar
Covered in mud...
 
Haggar's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-06-05
Location: Oxford, MI
Posts: 17,649
iTrader: (55)
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by whiterhino View Post
This would be by far the cheapest way to go. Take Hag gar up on his offer.
Oh, I'm not making any offers..hehehe. I'm doing that for my scrambler. But I know how I wheel, and the D44 works for what I do.

If you get chromo axles, get good ones, not the cheap yukon ones that are weak as stock that a certain someone broke in the parking lot on a log. :hehe:
Haggar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 21st, 2011, 02:24 PM   #15
Plato2k5
In Da Faaaaaace!!!
 
Plato2k5's Avatar
 
Join Date: 12-25-05
Location: WMU Kzoo Mi / Livonia, MI
Posts: 5,431
iTrader: (17)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Send a message via AIM to Plato2k5
Default

Haggar, I had the wedges on my D44 and I cut them off. There was a tube under it. Does it depend on the year?
Plato2k5 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 21st, 2011, 02:35 PM   #16
Dylan
Senior Member
 
Dylan's Avatar
 
Join Date: 08-24-06
Location: K-zoo
Posts: 1,124
iTrader: (7)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Plato2k5 View Post
Haggar, I had the wedges on my D44 and I cut them off. There was a tube under it. Does it depend on the year?
the cast wedges are the tubes them selves. The stamped wedges are welded to the tube and can be cut off. I don't know the year difference but you can tell just by looking at them.
Dylan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 21st, 2011, 03:27 PM   #17
2fst4you
Senior Member
 
2fst4you's Avatar
 
Join Date: 12-30-07
Location: White Lake, MI
Posts: 3,176
iTrader: (9)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Default

Id like to run a 3 link! How do I modify that axle for that?
2fst4you is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 21st, 2011, 05:45 PM   #18
powerranger33
Senior Member
 
powerranger33's Avatar
 
Join Date: 02-22-10
Location: richmond
Posts: 473
iTrader: (6)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Default

Look for a d44 that is outta '77 or earlier because they have welded on wedges
powerranger33 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 21st, 2011, 07:25 PM   #19
2fst4you
Senior Member
 
2fst4you's Avatar
 
Join Date: 12-30-07
Location: White Lake, MI
Posts: 3,176
iTrader: (9)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Default

I decided to just wait until I have money to do a d60. I need a new trans in my jeep and want to save for another car before I do such big swap
2fst4you is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 21st, 2011, 08:16 PM   #20
Haggar
Covered in mud...
 
Haggar's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-06-05
Location: Oxford, MI
Posts: 17,649
iTrader: (55)
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Plato2k5 View Post
Haggar, I had the wedges on my D44 and I cut them off. There was a tube under it. Does it depend on the year?
Yes, and the vehicle.

Here's a cutaway from the cast wedges:



The 78-79 F150s (most of them) and Broncos they have cast wedges.

77 and earliest usually have welded wedges. F250s with D44s fronts (some had 60s) had leaf springs, so no wedges to get rid of, just spring perches. Certain club/crew cab F150s also had leaf spring fronts.


Places like DTS can retube an axle for a couple hundred bucks. Or you can do it yourself if you have a welder, plastma, press, and lathe. Conveniently, I do.
Haggar is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply
Great Lakes 4x4. The largest offroad forum in the Midwest > 4x4 Talk > Axle Tech

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:55 AM.


Powered by: vBulletin, Copyright 2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2014 DragonByte Technologies Ltd. Runs best on HiVelocity Hosting.
Page generated in 0.29784 seconds with 81 queries