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Old June 18th, 2011, 11:12 PM   #121
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I didn't know so many people here thought they were entitled to a pleasurable (by their definition) view as they drive by others property.

Seriously, I would much rather drive by a house with a Peterbilt and a dumpster than a house with a couple of prius's accompanied by some faggy ass "sculpture" (milk jugs stapled together to look like an elephant or something.).

I don't believe I am entitled to ask anyone to park a Dodge Ram at the end of their driveway, or park their Kia's at the park & ride and walk home, but it sure would make me feel better about the world. Why would anyone feel so entitled to demand that I change my oil inside my garage with the door shut instead of in my driveway?

If you really believe that you are entitled to my property, then you should buy it from me. Aren't my tax dollars enough for you?

the view has nothing to do with it in technicality. it's relative to residential vs. commercial usages which are in fact controlled by ordinances.

if you don't like land use regulation/ordinances then you live in an unplanned, ordinance-free, non-charter township in the boonies. else, you abide by the ordinances or subject yourself to possible/probable enforcement.

just like your right to free speech, is fiercely protected, but also subject to certain qualifications and regulations.

you can not threaten a member of the elected executive branch, or legislative branch - nor in fact can you threaten any other citizen (the penalties and likely enforcement are the distinction areas)

nor can you yell "fire" in an movie theatre or otherwise incite a panic/riot

nor can you curse in certain circumstances - in many areas of the country, profanity in the presence of women and children is an offense that ranges from a misdemeanor to a felony.

get the picture?
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Old June 18th, 2011, 11:16 PM   #122
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if i find someone staking out my house to photograph my activities, there will certainly be charges filed for stalking me. so don't get any ideas
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Scooter you could have picked one of the slightly better pics of her.

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Old June 18th, 2011, 11:39 PM   #124
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I thought I did?
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you guys are dead men walking...

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Old June 19th, 2011, 08:52 AM   #127
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I demand you remove those pictures right fucking now!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Old June 19th, 2011, 08:58 AM   #128
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Many states have enacted "cyberstalking" or "cyberharassment" laws or have laws that explicitly include electronic forms of communication within more traditional stalking or harassment laws. In addition, recent concerns about protecting minors from online bullying or harassment have led states to enact "cyberbullying" laws. This chart identifies only state laws that include specific references to electronic communication. However, other state laws may still apply to those who harass, threaten or bully others online, although specific language may make the laws easier to enforce. This chart classifies the various state laws addressing these three different types of online behaviors, as described below.
Cyberstalking. Cyberstalking is the use of the Internet, email or other electronic communications to stalk, and generally refers to a pattern of threatening or malicious behaviors. Cyberstalking may be considered the most dangerous of the three types of Internet harassment, based on a posing credible threat of harm. Sanctions range from misdemeanors to felonies.

Cyberharassment. Cyberharassment differs from cyberstalking in that it is generally defined as not involving a credible threat. Cyberharassment usually pertains to threatening or harassing email messages, instant messages, or to blog entries or websites dedicated solely to tormenting an individual. Some states approach cyberharrassment by including language addressing electronic communications in general harassment statutes, while others have created stand-alone cyberharassment statutes.

Cyberbullying. Cyberbullying and cyberharassment are sometimes used interchangeably, but for the purposes of this chart, cyberbullying is used for electronic harassment or bullying among minors within a school context. Recent cyberbullying legislation reflects a trend of makaing school districts the policy enforcers of such misconduct. As a result, statutes establish the infrastructure for schools to handle this issue by amending existing school anti-bullying policies to include cyberbullying or electronic harassment among school age children. The majority of these state laws establish sanctions for all forms of cyberbullying on school property, school busses and official school functions. However, some have also extended sanctions to include cyberbullying activities that originate off-campus, believing that activities off-campus can have a chilling and disruptive effect on children's learning environment. The sanctions for cyberbullying range from school/parent interventions to misdemeanors and felonies with detention, suspension, and expulsion in between. Some of these laws promote Internet safety education or curricula that covers cyberbullying.

750.411s Posting message through electronic medium; prohibitions; penalty; exceptions; definitions.
Sec. 411s.

(1) A person shall not post a message through the use of any medium of communication, including the internet or a computer, computer program, computer system, or computer network, or other electronic medium of communication, without the victim's consent, if all of the following apply:

(a) The person knows or has reason to know that posting the message could cause 2 or more separate noncontinuous acts of unconsented contact with the victim.

(b) Posting the message is intended to cause conduct that would make the victim feel terrorized, frightened, intimidated, threatened, harassed, or molested.

(c) Conduct arising from posting the message would cause a reasonable person to suffer emotional distress and to feel terrorized, frightened, intimidated, threatened, harassed, or molested.

(d) Conduct arising from posting the message causes the victim to suffer emotional distress and to feel terrorized, frightened, intimidated, threatened, harassed, or molested.

(2) A person who violates subsection (1) is guilty of a crime as follows:

(a) Except as provided in subdivision (b), the person is guilty of a felony punishable by imprisonment for not more than 2 years or a fine of not more than $5,000.00, or both.

(b) If any of the following apply, the person is guilty of a felony punishable by imprisonment for not more than 5 years or a fine of not more than $10,000.00, or both:

(i) Posting the message is in violation of a restraining order and the person has received actual notice of that restraining order or posting the message is in violation of an injunction or preliminary injunction.

(ii) Posting the message is in violation of a condition of probation, a condition of parole, a condition of pretrial release, or a condition of release on bond pending appeal.

(iii) Posting the message results in a credible threat being communicated to the victim, a member of the victim's family, or another individual living in the same household as the victim.

(iv) The person has been previously convicted of violating this section or section 145d, 411h, or 411i, or section 6 of 1979 PA 53, MCL 752.796, or a substantially similar law of another state, a political subdivision of another state, or of the United States.

(v) The victim is less than 18 years of age when the violation is committed and the person committing the violation is 5 or more years older than the victim.

(3) This section does not apply to an internet or computer network service provider who in good faith, and without knowledge of the specific nature of the message posted, provides the medium for disseminating information or communication between persons.

(4) The court may order a person convicted of violating this section to reimburse this state or a local unit of government of this state for the expenses incurred in relation to the violation in the same manner that expenses may be ordered to be reimbursed under section 1f of chapter IX of the code of criminal procedure, 1927 PA 175, MCL 769.1f.

(5) This section does not prohibit a person from being charged with, convicted of, or punished for any other violation of law committed by that person while violating or attempting to violate this section.

(6) This section does not prohibit constitutionally protected speech or activity.

(7) A person may be prosecuted in this state for violating or attempting to violate this section only if 1 of the following applies:

(a) The person posts the message while in this state.

(b) Conduct arising from posting the message occurs in this state.

(c) The victim is present in this state at the time the offense or any element of the offense occurs.

(d) The person posting the message knows that the victim resides in this state.

(8) As used in this section:

(a) “Computer” means any connected, directly interoperable or interactive device, equipment, or facility that uses a computer program or other instructions to perform specific operations including logical, arithmetic, or memory functions with or on computer data or a computer program and that can store, retrieve, alter, or communicate the results of the operations to a person, computer program, computer, computer system, or computer network.

(b) “Computer network” means the interconnection of hardwire or wireless communication lines with a computer through remote terminals, or a complex consisting of 2 or more interconnected computers.

(c) “Computer program” means a series of internal or external instructions communicated in a form acceptable to a computer that directs the functioning of a computer, computer system, or computer network in a manner designed to provide or produce products or results from the computer, computer system, or computer network.

(d) “Computer system” means a set of related, connected or unconnected, computer equipment, devices, software, or hardware.

(e) “Credible threat” means a threat to kill another individual or a threat to inflict physical injury upon another individual that is made in any manner or in any context that causes the individual hearing or receiving the threat to reasonably fear for his or her safety or the safety of another individual.

(f) “Device” includes, but is not limited to, an electronic, magnetic, electrochemical, biochemical, hydraulic, optical, or organic object that performs input, output, or storage functions by the manipulation of electronic, magnetic, or other impulses.

(g) “Emotional distress” means significant mental suffering or distress that may, but does not necessarily, require medical or other professional treatment or counseling.

(h) “Internet” means that term as defined in section 230 of title II of the communications act of 1934, chapter 652, 110 Stat. 137, 47 U.S.C. 230.

(i) “Post a message” means transferring, sending, posting, publishing, disseminating, or otherwise communicating or attempting to transfer, send, post, publish, disseminate, or otherwise communicate information, whether truthful or untruthful, about the victim.

(j) “Unconsented contact” means any contact with another individual that is initiated or continued without that individual's consent or in disregard of that individual's expressed desire that the contact be avoided or discontinued. Unconsented contact includes any of the following:

(i) Following or appearing within sight of the victim.

(ii) Approaching or confronting the victim in a public place or on private property.

(iii) Appearing at the victim's workplace or residence.

(iv) Entering onto or remaining on property owned, leased, or occupied by the victim.

(v) Contacting the victim by telephone.

(vi) Sending mail or electronic communications to the victim through the use of any medium, including the internet or a computer, computer program, computer system, or computer network.

(vii) Placing an object on, or delivering or having delivered an object to, property owned, leased, or occupied by the victim.

(k) “Victim” means the individual who is the target of the conduct elicited by the posted message or a member of that individual's immediate family.


History: Add. 2000, Act 475, Eff. Apr. 1, 2001

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Old June 19th, 2011, 09:10 AM   #130
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I demand you remove those pictures right fucking now!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old June 19th, 2011, 09:12 AM   #131
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It looks like those pictures are on myspace. Open to the public

You started this thread
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Old June 19th, 2011, 09:18 AM   #132
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Wow. I don't need laws, I don't want to obey laws. Dirt is my friend.

Now I need this law to protect me. You don't get to pick and choose.....
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Old June 19th, 2011, 09:35 AM   #133
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Same 14 year old? One has dark brown eyes, the other has "I'm gonna be a hooker some day blue eyes"? How does such a douchenozzle get such good looking underage sex toys?
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Old June 19th, 2011, 09:39 AM   #134
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Now now, this site isn't dedicated to tormenting you as an individual. Its for tormenting all trashy folks.
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Old June 19th, 2011, 09:42 AM   #135
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I better do what he says after that PM.
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Old June 19th, 2011, 09:46 AM   #136
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Its not like they are stalking you and tormenting you, its more like you stepped out in front of train
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I better do what he says after that PM.
Boy, if its that good you better share with the class. We don't want to miss out on anything pertinent to the conversation.
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Boy, if its that good you better share with the class. We don't want to miss out on anything pertinent to the conversation.
My keyboard must be lacking the sarcasm button today. But anyway... I'm going to be cow feed


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dude if you dont take that pic down right fucking now your ass is grass and i fucking mean that that was way out of fucking line
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Old June 19th, 2011, 10:02 AM   #139
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Gawd Kodiak, you truly deserve your retard badge. This is about the 900th thread you've started that blows up in your face because of your bad decisions. If you don't want to be bothered, stop posting.
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Many states have enacted "cyberstalking"
you're pretty amusing - I am now leaning towards you can't possibly be this stupid and perhaps are actually the world's best troll.

or perhaps you really are that stupid and think that the law is only meant to protect you, but at the same time not hold you accountable for ordinance violations?

so far, I have not yet seen anyone post your photograph, your address, threatening behavior directed at you or anything of the sort. photographs posted by others in this thread appear to have come from public domain, and while scary to some are not threatening or harassment in and of themselves.

if anything you have cyberstalked the good people of this forum by continuing to pretend to seek advice on a variety of life's issues, all the while admitting that you're too stupid to do reasonable research before hand, and follow well reasoned advice when it is presented to you. Further, you have several times publicly admitted on this forum your intent to subvert the ordinances of Waterford Township, avoid paying federal and state income taxes on various side jobs ranging from pyramid sales, to illegal rescue/salvage operations and snow removal, and not to mention avoiding paying personal property taxes on assets of those commercial entities, thus depriving the Waterford Schools, and State of Michigan State Education Tax of much needed revenue.

Perhaps you should just sit down, shut up, listen to the advice and turn your train-wreck around.
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