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Old June 6th, 2011, 12:30 PM   #1
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Default Mounting tire on H1 rim suggestions

I'm sure this has been posted before and I've done a quick search but can't seem to find it. I am trying to mount my new Rockers on some H1 rims and can't get the threads to engage enough to pull each half of the rim together. I've been using soapy water on the beads and jumping up and down on them to try and get them to seat with no success. Does anyone have any suggestions on what works and what doesn't? The tires are 42x15x16.5 Bias Pitbull Rockers.
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Old June 6th, 2011, 12:40 PM   #2
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You need a Collin- or someone his size to stand on them for you. Another big help is to place a 2x8 or 2x10 the correct length to hold the bottom of the wheel up so that it has something solid to keep the back of the wheel raised up- instead of it just moving up and down with the sidewall of the tire.

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Old June 6th, 2011, 12:44 PM   #3
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I guess my 200# self just isn't enough. I have the back of the rim sitting up on 2 old brake drums which is keeping the tire off the ground but I just noticed that I can put the inner rim on and up to the bead but every time I lay it back down to put the outer on it slides out and won't reseat correctly. Gonna try a little less on the height the tire is up so it doesn't want to pop off. I've been working on one tire for over 2 hours now and it's getting frustrating!
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What/if any/ inserts are you running? What's the thickness of the beads on the tires? Somtimes the inserts need to be trimmed down about a 1/4 or 1/2 inch....
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Old June 6th, 2011, 01:14 PM   #5
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Cut down mag inserts. I have all of them started on this tire now. Just have to torque them all down and fill it up. Now that they are all started I looked at the inner bead and you can tell the rim isn't all the way in but as it gets tightened down it is getting closer. Hopefully I don't have to cut down the inserts now that this one is on.
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I seem to remember something from Pirate that they need to be 6 3/4" wide. You may want to double check the thickness on your other inserts bafore going too far. You need to get them tourqued enough to get the o-ring between the wheel halves to seat and seal too.
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Old June 6th, 2011, 01:51 PM   #7
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I'm guessing just by how far I can get them tightened down that they need to be narrowed some. I still have about 1/2" gap between the inner and outer pieces where the bolts are and I'm torqued on all bolts to about 120 ft lbs which is what I've read as being the right amount. Guess I'm gonna have to pull this one apart and get some narrower inserts, probably pvc.
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You can trim down the mag ones with a bandsaw too- Just FYI.....

PS- if you do decide to go with the PVC ones, let me have dibs of your mag ones.
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That's what I'm planning to do, sending out a couple of emails real fast to see who has the best price on them. The mags have the runflat portion cut off. If you still want them you have first shot. Don't really know a price though right now.
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I'll be happy to take them off your hands in trade for some really good advise!!!!!

P.S. Trailworthy fab probably has the best inventory levels and prices on them.- about $50 each and they can be UPS'd.
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P.S. Trailworthy fab probably has the best inventory levels and prices on them.- about $50 each and they can be UPS'd.
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OH- Andy is really really busy- so give him a few days to respond, or just order them right off the website
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Well I sent him an email and 3 minutes later had a response. 6 3/4" for the 42" Rockers. I may just see if there is somewhere around here that could cut the mags down. They are SO easy to get in and out of the tire compared to the pvc ones. I wish I had a band saw. I'll let you know as soon as I figure out what I'm going to do.
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Sweet and good luck!
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Find somone with a BIG lathe to turn the ends off.
Could do it with a good size mill also.
It would be nice if they are square when you are done.
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There are pieces of what look like aluminum (haven't really looked that close, could be mag as well) that slide over the edge right now that make the edge a little wider. They come off fairly easy so anything that is cut, I'll just slide those back over the edge.
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That's what I'm planning to do, sending out a couple of emails real fast to see who has the best price on them. The mags have the runflat portion cut off. If you still want them you have first shot. Don't really know a price though right now.
Don't do the PVC inserts, use the HDPE ones from Stazworks...

http://www.stazworks.com/hummer.htm

There have been numerous reports of the pvc inserts cracking/splitting and then ripping through the tire. The HDPE ones are a little more flexible and don't break...this also makes them eaiser to install
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