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Old November 4th, 2010, 10:38 AM   #1
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I'm looking to purchase a large enclosed trailer to haul / store my truck in. My truck is roughly 7' tall by 7' wide. I can lose several inches of height by airing the tires all the way down to hopefully fit through the doorway. I'm hoping a 7' ceiling height trailer will work. My best guess is it weighs 6500 - 7000#, so weight capacity should not be a problem with 5500# axles. This will be a multi-use trailer, so I'm planning on something like 30' long to leave room for tools and whatever else.

I have a newer Duramax pickup, so towing it won't be a problem. Budget is 5-10K.

Anybody have any words of wisdom for me?
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What width is your rig with the offroad tires? You want to avoid swapping tires to load/unload the rig if possible (obviously). Buidling a ramp to clear the inner fenders isn't a big deal. the bigger deal is the width of the rear door.

As for height, usually the door of the trailer is about 5" shorter than the roof of the trailer, make sure you measure the door height, not roof height. For loading the rig, do you have a front and rear winch that you can suck down the body with? That will help for clearing the door.

bumper pull or gooseneck? New or used?
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My truck was 7' to the outside of the tires with the old 40" TSLs, so probably a touch wider for the new 42" SX2s.

Yes, I have dual suck down winches.

Throw up some info on yours and I'll consider it. I was planning on pumper pull, but would buy a gooseneck for the right price.
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If I ever finish my jep it will be close to 80" wide. It seems hard to find trailers that wide. I hope to get one in the next couple years as well. Keep us posted on what you find.
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So you are bailing out on the project? Shoot me a pm with a price.
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Mine is a 20' with 1' extended ht all around. I have more clearance for my jeep than my 7' garage door. I don't know what the dimension between my fenders is but I can clear it. How long is your truck? I have a stainless work bench with vise, 2 tool boxes, shelves,etc. If you're no longer than a jeep, you would be cool. I've been considering selling my enclosed. I can dig up some pics if you are interested.
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I've been researching the hell out of this. Most newer enclosed trailers have a 8' wide door opening, but the height is usually just over 6'.

Not for sure yet, but looks like I'm going to have a custom trailer built for me (unless I can find a used one that suits my needs). I'm in the process of selling my house and my wife and I are going to be living on the road where ever my work takes me. This will serve as my mobile garage to hold all my toys, including: My ZR2, 2 quads, 4 kayaks, 2 mountain bikes, 1 road bike, 1 motorcycle, my toolbox, several totes full of gear for hiking, camping, skiing, kayaking, quad riding, etc. I'm envisioning something like 8.5x32 with an extra 18" of height.
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the only trailer i know would work for your height and width is a semi van trailer. look into buying a old conway, ups or fedex pup trailer. they are normally around 28 ft long, and with some customizing you can change the rear axle to a non air brake axle and make a lower height hitch for it. some shopping around and some fab work i bet you could make one for way less then the 5-10k you were planning on spending.
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I don't have time or interest for a project like that right now.

The more I look, the more trailers I find that will work. There's one up in Holland I was about ready to buy, but the guy sold it. I need to get some better measurements on my truck, but I think I can get away with a standard 8.5 x 32 race trailer with 12" extra height. Might need to get 18" extra height, not sure yet. If I can't find a used one that will work be February or so, I'll have a new one custom built for me.
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After owning 2 different enclosed trailers here's my advice. Buy a good one, don't buy the cheapest. Spend the extra money on the 30 amp wiring, flourescent lights and insulated roof. Take the time to specify the locations of the outlets based on where you want to put cabinets, workbench, etc. DO NOT get an extended height side door. This will allow you to put an awing on it if you want. For me, I also wish I only had a 3' wide door instead of the standard 4'. That gives you more wall space. But, if you think you want to put something wide in the side, you may want it. Make sure you DO get the side door with the RV latch. Using the cam bar to keep the side door closed is a PITA. Make sure you get the extended tongue. That way, if you ever tow it with an RV, you won't have a problem. A spare tire is cheaper if you buy it with the trailer.
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Speaking of cheap, not that I want to buy one, but how the hell are they making trailers down in Georgia for 1/2 the price of the ones up here? They say they are made right there, so its not like its Mexican labor. Obviously all the cheapest components available?

Great idea on the door size. My front door has to be at least 50" wide so I can get my quads out of it. Will probably be a ramp, but might be a single door, or might be 2 barn-style doors. Not sure yet. Great idea on the RV latch. My quad trailer has that damn cam lock and I have to use a bungee to hold it shut if we're inside.

I was wondering why so many of these have an extended tongue. What is different about towing behind an RV?




I got some bad news today. Haulmark gave me a quote and they are saying the fenders inside are 24" off the floor, which means I would need an extra 36" of height on the trailer to maintain the 7.5' of clearance I need. That puts the trailer 11.5' tall total, which I don't want. I need to take some better measurements, fire up Autocad, and take a closer look at things. I don't want a trailer that tall.
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I don't understand the tall fenders. Mine are about 8-10" tall. But either way, I fit between them so it's not an issue. Are you saying you have to drive over them? If not, what's the issue? If you are too wide and need to drive over, you may need to consider removing your front tires. (that's one of the reasons I quit running paddles)

Extended tongue; When I bought my first enclosed, it was used and an extra 6" height. The wife and I took it up to the local school parking lot to test out maneuvering. All was well until I made a super sharp turn where the rear bumper was tucked in close to the tongue and at the same time, the rear tire of the motorhome happened to be dropped down because it was over a round drain culvert. Wife hollers STOP!!! The slight dip of the parking lot while turned was enough to tip the tops of the motorhome and trailer together. I actually broke a top marker light cover but was fortunate that I didn't crush any structure. I'm sure you've seen where people jackknife a truck bed into a trailer. Now consider that both are 8' tall rectangular boxes. Kink them down at the hitch and they collide at the top. Long explanation I know........... LOL
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I don't understand the tall fenders either. Yes, I need to drive over them. My truck is too wide to fit between them, at least on the ones I've seen so far. If I can't get this done without removing my front wheels I may just forget the whole idea.

Makes perfect sense about the long tongue!

Lots more research to do. I'm not happy with anything I've seen yet. There has to be a way to shoehorn this damn truck in a trailer without it being 11.5' tall!
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Chris, only couple bits of advice I can give at this time would be these....

definitely get a GN. you will thank yourself many times over. so much easier to pull in any conditions. I easily doubled my weight that I pull and it's actually easier now (absolutely no swaying and such)

definitely want the longer tongue or something adjustable that can give you a little more distance between GN and bed rail. there were a few times in Moab where I was slightly worried about mine contacting the bed rail when I was offcamber turning around in those non-pavement lots. I have the clearance, but it'll rattle your cage a couple times when you see how close it can be.

that and you'll probably just want to get small rollers for the front axle to load it. Mike does this with his bronco and his enclosed. that way it clears the wheelwells no prob and just drives right in.

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I can't get a gooseneck, as there is a possible motorhome purchase in the future. If I pay premium price to have a trailer built to my specs, I plan on keeping it around a while.

I know changing tires is the easy solution, but I REALLY don't want to have to change tires. Can you imagine getting back from a long, hard day on the trail, (with possible rain, snow, wind, cold) and having to get out a jack and swap tires every time before I can put it in the trailer? Not to mention trying to jack on the parking lots that are usually sand, gravel, or not level. It wouldn't be the end of the world, but it would suck. If my rig were road legal and I could get from campground / motel to trailhead, it wouldn't be so bad.

Lots of thinking, researching, measuring, and drawing to do yet.

Thanks for the advice Steve and everybody, its much appreciated.
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then I think you need to really consider what you truly need/want for the future. if you are truly going to get a motorhome of some sort then that will dictate what type of trailer you want now. IMO, you have 2 choices (so to speak).... 1) just a big enough trailer to fit the rig and a little space left over for some work area 2) skip the motorhome and do a trailer that has living quarters (Like what I have or like Mikes). Mikes enclosed has living quarters in the front section and plenty of garage space too. pretty sure his is a 40' though

I'd hate to see ya get too much trailer and then try to put it behind a large motorhome. that will limit where you can go.

just food for thought.
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How wide are you in the front? I'm running 65" WMS to WMS and have about 2" to clear. An option would be to modify the inner fender wells but I still can't imagine why so tall inside the Hallmark. I guess I'd have to see a pic.
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