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Old May 18th, 2011, 11:27 AM   #1
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Question help with radio/speaker setup for a jeep

I know very little of how these things work except that they produce sound, so I need your help/opinions.

I want to put a cd radio in my jeep. There is nothing in the jeep as of right now related to radio/speakers.

My goal is to be able to hear music when driving at near highway speeds with top down.

What do I need besides radio and some speakers? What speakers should I get that would provide water protection (or are they pretty much ok out on the rain?) and will sound good. How many watts and how many speakers? Radio will be in a Tuffy security console, so that should be somewhat protected. Do I need an amp?

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Old May 18th, 2011, 11:38 AM   #2
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amp sure, depending on what speakers you run, maybe a 300w one be good for you, overhead sound bar be best for when top is down, can use marine speakers for water proofness, look at 4 way speakers for sound bar, add a bass sub or boozka if want that g-dog thumb as then you be cool cause you have a fro to go with it.
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Old May 18th, 2011, 11:44 AM   #3
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Depends on how good you want it to sound while driving. If you want good sound go with a sound bar and dash speakers. If you’re after great sound and a little louder go the same set up but with a 4 channel amp.

Also most of the time if the speakers are in the dash or on the underside of a sound bar they don’t really get all that wet.

As for equipment I have always used kenwood head units and alpine speakers and amps
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Old May 18th, 2011, 12:05 PM   #4
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amp sure, depending on what speakers you run, maybe a 300w one be good for you, overhead sound bar be best for when top is down, can use marine speakers for water proofness, look at 4 way speakers for sound bar, add a bass sub or boozka if want that g-dog thumb as then you be cool cause you have a fro to go with it.
You lost me...so I need an amp, 300watt speakers (how many?)
What kind of amp would I need? Does that depend on the speakers, or radio, or both?

I like the soundbar idea. Would I then put couple of speakers in the soundbar and couple in the back?

No thump for me, there is no room for that, but it would go great with my fro...

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Depends on how good you want it to sound while driving. If you want good sound go with a sound bar and dash speakers. If youíre after great sound and a little louder go the same set up but with a 4 channel amp.

Also most of the time if the speakers are in the dash or on the underside of a sound bar they donít really get all that wet.

As for equipment I have always used kenwood head units and alpine speakers and amps
I don't want to hear that speaker squeel/rattle sound when you turn up the speakers.

What wattage speakers do I need? If I go with the sound bar, is it better to put the other in the dash or in the rear? This is a scrambler with a thrid row seat.
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Old May 18th, 2011, 12:17 PM   #5
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I've had great luck with the Pioneer head units. They usually push enough power to the speakers that you won't need an amp.
Their marine-grade speakers are also very nice. The will withstand any natural elements that being exposed on a topless Jeep will subject them to and they have the same sound quality as their car-audio line.

Very simple hook-up. Just follow the directions that come with whichever head unit you choose and then just run the speaker wires to the appropritate speaker. It's just a positive and negative wire for each. It will be harder to run the wires than it will be to make the correct connections.
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Old May 18th, 2011, 12:43 PM   #6
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look in JC whitney Jeep mag for a soundbar, comes with speakers, just bolt it in and hook up 2 wires and your good to go.
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Old May 18th, 2011, 12:45 PM   #7
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I forgot I need to keep it simple for you.

http://www.jcwhitney.com/jeep/speake...c588j4s18.jcwx
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Old May 18th, 2011, 01:22 PM   #8
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I forgot I need to keep it simple for you.

http://www.jcwhitney.com/jeep/speake...c588j4s18.jcwx
Yeah, thanks a lot: "This product does not work with your 1982 Jeep CJ8"

I'm still not
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Old May 18th, 2011, 01:24 PM   #9
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I've had great luck with the Pioneer head units. They usually push enough power to the speakers that you won't need an amp.
Their marine-grade speakers are also very nice. The will withstand any natural elements that being exposed on a topless Jeep will subject them to and they have the same sound quality as their car-audio line.

Very simple hook-up. Just follow the directions that come with whichever head unit you choose and then just run the speaker wires to the appropritate speaker. It's just a positive and negative wire for each. It will be harder to run the wires than it will be to make the correct connections.
Thanks, but how many watt speakers do I need and how do I know when I need an amp and when the radio will "push enough power to the speakers" witout one?
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Old May 18th, 2011, 01:36 PM   #10
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I don't want to hear that speaker squeel/rattle sound when you turn up the speakers.

What wattage speakers do I need? If I go with the sound bar, is it better to put the other in the dash or in the rear? This is a scrambler with a thrid row seat.
Ok then I would recommend an amp then but youíre going to have to spend some money on one because more than likely it will end up under a seat and youíre going to need a cool running amp.

I would go with alpine s types (yeah Iím an alpine guy) the wattage is determined on speaker size, those speakers will be more than capable for what your using them for.

I would run your sound bar and rear speakers off of the 4 channel amp because they will be bigger than the dash speakers and can handle more power. Then I would use the head unit to power the two dash speakers.

Also if youíre going with a 4 channel I would put round speakers in the sound bar and the rear. The rounds have better sound qualities and do not distort as much. However round speakers are not as loud as an oval (6x9), but the amp will more than make up for this.
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Old May 18th, 2011, 02:30 PM   #11
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Ok, just to recap, this is my plan from what I read.

I will try to make a sound bar fit my scrambler somehow.

Buy two rear speakers and two front speakers in addition to the sound bar.

connect it to the radio/head unit.

If it sounds crappy, add an amp and it should sound good.

This brings another question. Where do I buy speaker wire and what gauge do I need?
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call crutchfield.com and tell them what you want and they will hook you up with everything.
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Old May 18th, 2011, 03:09 PM   #13
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head unit 50 watts per channel(200 watts). pioneer, kenwood, alpine, sony, are all pretty good and would work fine. for speakers find out what fits in your location. crutchfield says a cj dash speaker is 5.25 inches. get the best set of poly 5.25 speakers you can find. the higher the wattage rating the better. 100watts or more would be fine.
dont buy paper speakers, the weather will kill them. there are 6x9 boxes made to be put in a cj that mount to the bottom of the roll bar. you can find them through quadratech or jc whitney. buy them empty. get the best 6x9's you can find. 3 or 4 ways rated 200 watts or more. that will get you started. without a soundbar it might not sound great, but i bet you will hear it. if you decide to go with an amp, you could look into adding more speakers for more/better sound. if you want a little bass you could mount a small sub under each front seat. the bass will make it sound much better, even if you dont listen to rap. it gives rock and country a more full sound also.

if your totally lost check out a mickey shore or similar audio installer, and see what they think is best for your situation. never skimp on speakers, they are the key to good sound! buy name brand components!

like mini beast says, crutchfield has decent prices, and they sell nearly everything you could want.
good luck
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I know very little of how these things work except that they produce sound, so I need your help/opinions.

I want to put a cd radio in my jeep. There is nothing in the jeep as of right now related to radio/speakers.

My goal is to be able to hear music when driving at near highway speeds with top down.

What do I need besides radio and some speakers? What speakers should I get that would provide water protection (or are they pretty much ok out on the rain?) and will sound good. How many watts and how many speakers? Radio will be in a Tuffy security console, so that should be somewhat protected. Do I need an amp?

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Do they even make these anymore?
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Old May 18th, 2011, 03:40 PM   #15
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Ok, just to recap, this is my plan from what I read.

I will try to make a sound bar fit my scrambler somehow.

Buy two rear speakers and two front speakers in addition to the sound bar.

connect it to the radio/head unit.

If it sounds crappy, add an amp and it should sound good.

This brings another question. Where do I buy speaker wire and what gauge do I need?
You should be able to snag a 50' roll from any Radio Shack, Wal Mart, where ever you shop for basic automotive stuff. 12 or 14 gauge wire should do it.
Any 60 watt or higher speaker will work fine as most radios peak at their rated amount. They usually run under 20 watts for their basic continuous use.
If the deck can't keep up with the background noise (tire humm or wind noise) then you can always add an amp. I wouldn't bother with it initially as most of the modern head units really do put out a lot of sound.
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Old May 18th, 2011, 08:57 PM   #16
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He just hooked up my ipod system in the TJ and my kids setup in the XJ. Knows his stuff and a helluva nice guy.
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or call me at my shop 248-649-3131. I do this stuff for a living and can give you both advice and service.
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Shit.

Do I need to come over and get your radio running now too?

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Shit.

Do I need to come over and get your radio running now too?

First I need to find out why my shit is not running again.
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