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Old May 25th, 2011, 12:20 PM   #81
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did you at least bevel the clevis mount? i like to build my bumpers out of 3/8 wall minimum but thats just me and i like to use one solid piece of bar stock that goes through both sides of the tube so you get twice the weld for the clevis mount. but as the pic says im just a "mall crawler" so it dont matter anyways how come you did not incorporate the hitch into the bumper that way you could of gained a lot of ground clearance. also i have less than $200 in materials for my rear fenders.


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If you cant drive the 250 miles it takes and still make a profit with $500 that's your fault not mine. Now how about you post up something worth reading like your on your way or something.
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Old May 25th, 2011, 12:22 PM   #83
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If you cant drive the 250 miles it takes and still make a profit with $500 that's your fault not mine. Now how about you post up something worth reading like your on your way or something.
OK, here's a guy willing to take you up and make it official with a contract. Looks to me like you are back peddling.

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So you don't have a trailer and something decent to pull it with? Not my fault.
Again showing your lack of intelligence. Do you really think someone will tow a rig and get BETTER gas mileage?
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If you cant drive the 250 miles it takes and still make a profit with $500 that's your fault not mine. Now how about you post up something worth reading like your on your way or something.
lol shit talking when it gets real. nice "vendor" - you have a golden opportunity to prove how fabulous your fabricating skills are, and become an e-legend - the marketing opportunity you just squandered is truly astonishing. oh, that's right, it's not an opportunity cause your shit is likely just junk.

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So you don't have a trailer and something decent to pull it with? Not my fault.
show me a tow rig that gets better than 15/mpg in shitty city traffic from gary indianna through chicago.

who's fault is it that you're an overly sensitive foreskin?

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Well, now you ask for serious feedback, but before I can give feedback that doesn't involve penis - I need to know a couple of things about the bumper, and have another general question about something I think I see repeated here:





In both photos, I see a bracket/brackets that will have shear load applied to them:

1. In either fab, does the bracket extend into or through the underlying metal?

In the dumpster picture, I can appreciate how you would want a larger surface area to distribute the perpendicular ratchet-load to prevent the side of the box from buckling.
Your bumper picture shows the (composite, good idea, BTW) D-ring tab welded to a bigger base, in turn, welded to the bumper.

Now, what I can't tell from the pictures is if either bracket extends into any extra layers of metal or is just butt-welded on top of each.

In my honest opinion, neither one will endure a long life of use if butt-welded to the surface; you're relying entirely on the welds - which isn't a bad thing - until you rely on so relatively little amount of it.

Of course, this is only my opinion and not intended to jump on the flaming bandwagon.
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Hi. I really don't want your money, I was just doing it to prove a point. If I was really certain about something and I was willing to bet $500, I would surely up my offer to $1500 without batting an eye. But if this is going to take me two days to prove a point, I need to be compensated.
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are your clevis mounts two pieces welded together?
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I think you are the one that is amazing. You post pics and ask for opinions. Then when you get opinions that you don't like, you grow a large e-penis and start throwing out $500 bet. It's not worth my time to drive 5 hours over to your home, hook up a strap, bend your bumper, collect money and drive home.

What I find interesting is that you post up on Pirate and the only answer you get back is quite similar to the early replies you got here, before you got your swagger. And in case anyone wants to see it, here's the quote from Pirate;
A really hard pull to the side would probably bend the brackets right at the frame where your gussets end. If you put some gussets on the outside of the bracket all the way to the end of the mounting bracket, I think you would be ok then...

To me, your bumper looks OK but looks outdated. That's pretty much the way a bumper would have been built back in the 80's. Your welds are fine but nothing special. Are they OK? Sure.

Regarding giving you price on materials, that's a really stupid question from your end. Any reduced price you might find would be offset by the cost of shipping. You are in a steel making mecca. There are plenty of steel suppliers in the northern Indiana area.

Regarding your price of $299, to me it seems high.

Honest answers to your questions. Isn't that what you asked for?
You should read the response I made on Pirate, It explains alot. Now I've explained that my comments here were to get a good laugh to make a really shitty day go a little better. It really is too bad that a computer can't show emotion because you would see that I was laughing the whole time and still am. I have about $120 in materials for that bumper. Now add labor and welding materials. That price is alot cheaper then anything less then a C channel wonder around here. If I can manage to find a steel supplier that is cheaper It would probably go down. But without any profit why would I do it for anyone in the first place?

Regarding the 80's look. It's a 86 truck. The whole point of the build is to make you never think that this lifted 86 Ford is anything other then a old hillbillies farm truck. If I wanted to build a spaceship with 1500hp I would have kept the Mustang. Now let's say I pull up next to your Billy bad ass Vette at the dragstrip. Would it even cross your mind that your about to get your ass handed to you by a farm truck? Now add my ability to get people all worked up over some stupid shit and you will see that I'll probably come out of that whole scenerio a little richer then I was 2 minutes earlier.
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lol. We were just called "hillbillies" on pirate by this guy. that's funny. Homeboy lives in a double wide, works on dumpsters, drives a scooter to work, and has a clapped out sister fucking mustang, and then has the audacity to call us hillbillies.
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lol. We were just called "hillbillies" on pirate by this guy. that's funny. Homeboy lives in a double wide, works on dumpsters, drives a scooter to work, and has a clapped out sister fucking mustang, and then has the audacity to call us hillbillies.
Precisely
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are your clevis mounts two pieces welded together?
I think so - actually, not a bad idea IMHO.
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lol. We were just called "hillbillies" on pirate by this guy. that's funny. Homeboy lives in a double wide, works on dumpsters, drives a scooter to work, and has a clapped out sister fucking mustang, and then has the audacity to call us hillbillies.
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lol. We were just called "hillbillies" on pirate by this guy. that's funny. Homeboy lives in a double wide, works on dumpsters, drives a scooter to work, and has a clapped out sister fucking mustang, and then has the audacity to call us hillbillies.
Well,
I live in the country, drink PBR and own two pickup trucks; doesn't that make me one?
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Well, now you ask for serious feedback, but before I can give feedback that doesn't involve penis - I need to know a couple of things about the bumper, and have another general question about something I think I see repeated here:





In both photos, I see a bracket/brackets that will have shear load applied to them:

1. In either fab, does the bracket extend into or through the underlying metal?

In the dumpster picture, I can appreciate how you would want a larger surface area to distribute the perpendicular ratchet-load to prevent the side of the box from buckling.
Your bumper picture shows the (composite, good idea, BTW) D-ring tab welded to a bigger base, in turn, welded to the bumper.

Now, what I can't tell from the pictures is if either bracket extends into any extra layers of metal or is just butt-welded on top of each.

In my honest opinion, neither one will endure a long life of use if butt-welded to the surface; you're relying entirely on the welds - which isn't a bad thing - until you rely on so relatively little amount of it.

Of course, this is only my opinion and not intended to jump on the flaming bandwagon.
The tabs were wlded to the bumper and then the plate was slid over them and welded again. It's a rusty ass dumpster and you have to do what you have to do in a short amount of time. It is also constructed in the same way and not butt welded. That's why there is two plates.
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No, you have an auto-standby generator.
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lol. We were just called "hillbillies" on pirate by this guy. that's funny. Homeboy lives in a double wide, works on dumpsters, drives a scooter to work, and has a clapped out sister fucking mustang, and then has the audacity to call us hillbillies.
So who wants to meet me at the dragstrip? Ever seen White Men Can't Jump? same concept with the truck.


It sure is working too.

Anyone want to set up a grudge race at Hanks 4x4 Jamboree? Only rule is you have to meet up with me in Chicago and we both drive our junk there.
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lol. We were just called "hillbillies" on pirate by this guy. that's funny. Homeboy lives in a double wide, works on dumpsters, drives a scooter to work, and has a clapped out sister fucking mustang, and then has the audacity to call us hillbillies.
Don't be mad because the front wheels on that car are worth more then your trail rig.
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I tried welding my own bumber last night,

how does this support look?????



Are you taking credit for my mad welds? Don't be jealous
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did you at least bevel the clevis mount? i like to build my bumpers out of 3/8 wall minimum but thats just me and i like to use one solid piece of bar stock that goes through both sides of the tube so you get twice the weld for the clevis mount. but as the pic says im just a "mall crawler" so it dont matter anyways how come you did not incorporate the hitch into the bumper that way you could of gained a lot of ground clearance. also i have less than $200 in materials for my rear fenders.


2x6x3/8 tube welded to the frame

That hitch will never be used and is coming off anyway. I will never tow a damn thing with this truck, that's why I have a tow rig.
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Your only about an hour+ from me, but i know my YJ wouldn't make it that far, i'm afraid to take it around the block
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