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Old April 19th, 2011, 03:07 PM   #1
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I just picked up a t-trailer to haul my sand rail (not street legal) and I'm wondering if it needs a license plate. The trailer doesn't have any suspension but all 4 tires of the buggy are up on the trailer. I've heard if it doesn't have a suspension (which is why I mention that), it doesn't require a plate similar to a car dolly. But then if a car on a dolly doesn't have a license plate, does the dolly then need a plate? What kind of paper work will I need to get a trailer plate for it if required? Thanks for any and all help!
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Old April 19th, 2011, 03:21 PM   #2
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put a tool box on the front and call it a tool crib and u dont
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Old April 19th, 2011, 03:41 PM   #3
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257.216 Vehicles subject to registration and certificate of title provisions; exceptions.
Sec. 216.

Every motor vehicle, recreational vehicle, trailer, semitrailer, and pole trailer, when driven or moved on a street or highway, is subject to the registration and certificate of title provisions of this act except the following:

(a) A vehicle driven or moved on a street or highway in conformance with the provisions of this act relating to manufacturers, transporters, dealers, or nonresidents.

(b) A vehicle that is driven or moved on a street or highway only for the purpose of crossing that street or highway from 1 property to another.

(c) An implement of husbandry.

(d) Special mobile equipment. The secretary of state may issue a special registration to an individual, partnership, corporation, or association not licensed as a dealer that pays the required fee, to identify special mobile equipment that is driven or moved on a street or highway.

(e) A vehicle that is propelled exclusively by electric power obtained from overhead trolley wires though not operated on rails.

(f) Any vehicle subject to registration, but owned by the government of the United States.

(g) A certificate of title is not required for a trailer, semitrailer, or pole trailer that weighs less than 2,500 pounds.

(h) A vehicle driven or moved on a street or highway, by the most direct route, only for the purpose of securing a scale weight receipt from a weighmaster for purposes of section 801 or obtaining a vehicle inspection by a law enforcement agency before titling or registration of that vehicle.

(i) A certificate of title is not required for a vehicle owned by a manufacturer or dealer and held for sale or lease, even though incidentally moved on a street or highway or used for purposes of testing or demonstration.

(j) A bus or a school bus that is not self-propelled and is used exclusively as a construction shanty.

(k) A certificate of title is not required for a moped.

(l) For 3 days immediately following the date of a properly assigned title or signed lease agreement from any person other than a dealer, a registration is not required for a vehicle driven or moved on a street or highway for the sole purpose of transporting the vehicle by the most direct route from the place of purchase or lease to a place of storage if the driver has in his or her possession the assigned title showing the date of sale or a lease agreement showing the date of the lease.

(m) A certificate of registration is not required for a pickup camper, but a certificate of title is required.

(n) A new motor vehicle driven or moved on a street or highway only for the purpose of moving the vehicle from an accident site to a storage location if the vehicle was being transported on a railroad car or semitrailer that was involved in a disabling accident.

(o) A boat lift used for transporting vessels between a marina or a body of water and a place of inland storage.
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257.216 Vehicles subject to registration and certificate of title provisions; exceptions.
Sec. 216.

Every motor vehicle, recreational vehicle, trailer, semitrailer, and pole trailer, when driven or moved on a street or highway, is subject to the registration and certificate of title provisions of this act except the following:

(a) A vehicle driven or moved on a street or highway in conformance with the provisions of this act relating to manufacturers, transporters, dealers, or nonresidents.

(b) A vehicle that is driven or moved on a street or highway only for the purpose of crossing that street or highway from 1 property to another.

(c) An implement of husbandry.

(d) Special mobile equipment. The secretary of state may issue a special registration to an individual, partnership, corporation, or association not licensed as a dealer that pays the required fee, to identify special mobile equipment that is driven or moved on a street or highway.

(e) A vehicle that is propelled exclusively by electric power obtained from overhead trolley wires though not operated on rails.

(f) Any vehicle subject to registration, but owned by the government of the United States.

(g) A certificate of title is not required for a trailer, semitrailer, or pole trailer that weighs less than 2,500 pounds.

(h) A vehicle driven or moved on a street or highway, by the most direct route, only for the purpose of securing a scale weight receipt from a weighmaster for purposes of section 801 or obtaining a vehicle inspection by a law enforcement agency before titling or registration of that vehicle.

(i) A certificate of title is not required for a vehicle owned by a manufacturer or dealer and held for sale or lease, even though incidentally moved on a street or highway or used for purposes of testing or demonstration.

(j) A bus or a school bus that is not self-propelled and is used exclusively as a construction shanty.

(k) A certificate of title is not required for a moped.

(l) For 3 days immediately following the date of a properly assigned title or signed lease agreement from any person other than a dealer, a registration is not required for a vehicle driven or moved on a street or highway for the sole purpose of transporting the vehicle by the most direct route from the place of purchase or lease to a place of storage if the driver has in his or her possession the assigned title showing the date of sale or a lease agreement showing the date of the lease.

(m) A certificate of registration is not required for a pickup camper, but a certificate of title is required.

(n) A new motor vehicle driven or moved on a street or highway only for the purpose of moving the vehicle from an accident site to a storage location if the vehicle was being transported on a railroad car or semitrailer that was involved in a disabling accident.

(o) A boat lift used for transporting vessels between a marina or a body of water and a place of inland storage.
This would be great if he was asking if he needed a title.
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Old April 19th, 2011, 03:51 PM   #5
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This would be great if he was asking if he needed a title.
Read the first sentence again :)
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Thanks for the info, Howell, but all the legal speak just confuses me. Still not sure if I need a trailer plate for the trailer to haul my non-plated sand rail.
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I would say so. It says all trailers need registration if you will be using one on the road. Get it weight and take a slip to the sos office and pay the $75 or whatever it is for a non expiring plate.
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Yes, you need a plate for any trailer.
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Yes, you need a plate for any trailer.
Shhh, we need 7 more pages to figure that out.
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Even a car dolly needs a plate
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Old April 20th, 2011, 08:23 PM   #11
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Yes, you need a plate for any trailer.
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Even a car dolly needs a plate
Not in Michigan. Dollies are considered coupling devices and do not need plates.


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Tow dollies are two-wheeled towing devices used to transport vehicles by supporting one axle on the dolly, with the other axle on the road. A 1985 agreement between the Michigan State Police and the Michigan Department of State considers them as “coupling devices” rather than trailers in Michigan. The Michigan Department of State will not issue a registration plate for a tow dolly. Do not stop vehicles or issue citations for failing to display a registration plate on a tow dolly.
http://www.michigan.gov/documents/ms...e_203934_7.pdf

Very top of Page 4.

And you should also note, that it's a .gov link.

From the way it's worded, if you have both axles off the ground and on the T-trailer, it's a full blown trailer that needs plates.



If it's under 2,499 lbs (which I can well imagine it is), you're gonna eat $75 but you'll never have to worry about it again. Scales were around $20-$40 (I honestly can't remember, but it was somewhere in there) or so when I had one weighed a few months back.

Trailer fees are at the bottom:
http://www.michigan.gov/sos/0,1607,7...5432--,00.html

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either the tbar or the buggie needs a plate, tbar would be cheaper. if it touches the ground it needs a plate except for "coupling devices"
So, if you flat tow your rig, it needs a plate, if you dolly your rig, it needs a plate, if you trailer your rig, your trailer needs a plate.
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Thanks, everyone. Looks like I gotta give the state another $75. Sorry it didn't make it to 8 pages, Raymo....at least not yet! LOL
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