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Old March 25th, 2011, 05:05 PM   #1
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just bought a 95 mustang gt the other day , im pretty sure its got a timing issue , if i set the timing to right around 10ish* BTDC it hesitates and pops and misses and wont rev up past 3k rpm , right now the timing is set around 10ish* advanced but it still does the same thing kinda just not as bad , i do pull out the little chip to set the timing , im just not sure ware else to look , anyone point me in the right direction , car is drivable but i dont want to drive it and mess anything up , its just weird because no matter what the timing is set at its never 100%
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Old March 25th, 2011, 05:09 PM   #2
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also i do know that the firing order is corect , but something i did notice is that my #6 plug on my dizzy is ware everyone elses #1 plug is , basicle what im saying is that thats how far advanced the timing has to be in order for it to run semi decent
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Old March 25th, 2011, 05:22 PM   #3
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i do know its got a full exhaust with no cats . has full cold air intake BBK
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Old March 25th, 2011, 07:50 PM   #4
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nothing at all guys ? damn i figured by now this post would be loaded with ideas
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Old March 25th, 2011, 09:47 PM   #5
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my 93 did that and it ended up being a bad dist it was shorting out cause the shaft was woped out
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Old March 25th, 2011, 11:09 PM   #6
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my 93 did that and it ended up being a bad dist it was shorting out cause the shaft was woped out
thats what people keep telling me , my buddy thinks that the dizzy is 1 tooth off , ill check his idea tomorrow then im going to invest in a new dizzy , any opinions on one ( kinda on a budget )
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if its a budget id go with the oe replacement or if you can ive heard good stuff about msd
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Old March 25th, 2011, 11:19 PM   #8
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id definetky check the firing order and make sure its set right on the cap then start from 0 and work your way up. also not sure on mustangs but the broncos have a spout connector you have to pull before you can time them
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Pull the number one spark plug out. Bring piston to tdc. Check what the pointer says also to be sure its a compression stroke. Pull dist cap off and whichever post the rotor points to is number one. Just check the basics to begin with. Compression test, fuel pressure test just to be 100% positive that its as timing issue. I know these motors very well so let me know if you need any help. I may even come over and give ya a hand if need be
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I have heard and seen bad things with msd distributors. For what your car is just put a stock one in it IF that's the problem. Never have seen one go bad myself tho
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Pull the number one spark plug out. Bring piston to tdc. Check what the pointer says also to be sure its a compression stroke. Pull dist cap off and whichever post the rotor points to is number one. Just check the basics to begin with. Compression test, fuel pressure test just to be 100% positive that its as timing issue. I know these motors very well so let me know if you need any help. I may even come over and give ya a hand if need be
Do this first then pull every wire off the dizzy cap and use this firing order

5.0 HO 1-3-7-2-6-5-4-8

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The roller 5.0 (what you have) uses the 5.8l windsor firing order which is different than a standard 302.

Once you are 100% certain the firing order is right, fire it up in the dark and make sure the plug wires are not arcing out on anything.

Do these and report back.

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I may have a MSD distributor laying around it has less than 5 hours of run time, mechanical advance and the steel gear you need for a roller cam.
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thats for the help guys , i will check it out a little more tomorrow before i go to work and let you know what i find .,. also not sure if this tells you guys anything but ive tried running the timing locked and unlocked with the same results
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just checked the fire order and everything is good there , probably put a new distributor in it tomorrow ...... also started it up yesterday when it was dark and theres no wires arcing out or anything
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quick question guys , will a distributor from a 87-93 mustang 302 fit my motor ? , the oem part numbers are different but the MSD part numbers are the same
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If yours has a round plug which I think it does then no it wont work. But if its a rectangular style plug it will work
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so i pulled out the distributor this morning and noticed that it looks like the distributor sits crooked , it sits lower pointing to the passanger side and higher pointing to the drivers side , is this normal ? it did look like the distributor was fully seated thow
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so i bought a new pickup coil and installed it and went to put the distributor back in the car and it wasnt going in all the way so i gave it a twist pulled it back out , well now the whole oil pump rod came out with the distributor , how to i reinstall the pump shaft ? or should i get a new one now that the old one is out ?
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Try putting it back in with a magnet. I had this happen to me as well. I siliconed the shaft to the distributor. Probably not a great idea but it worked.

You really should bring the number 1 piston up and see where the rotor is pointing. thats where the firing order will start from. You may have it in the right order, just not starting in the right spot.
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Try putting it back in with a magnet. I had this happen to me as well. I siliconed the shaft to the distributor. Probably not a great idea but it worked.

You really should bring the number 1 piston up and see where the rotor is pointing. thats where the firing order will start from. You may have it in the right order, just not starting in the right spot.
got a brand new distributor installed today , ive been messing with the timing all day and still havent got it right , it runs great at idle but the second i stab the gas while driving it bogs and studders , im using the 1-3-7-2-6-5-4-8 fire order , im going to try the older 1-5-4-2-6-3-7-8 fire order tomorrow and see what happens , any other ideas guys ?
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car is fixed , ended up being a dirty maf sensor the whole time , car runs like a raped ape now
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