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Old March 26th, 2011, 10:34 PM   #41
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I am assuming your brain is inop. I thought the statement about the drunk in the truck was stupid. This is worse. WTF? You cant really think this is really what we should do.

It is times like this I am reminded why women shouldnt be allowed to have opinions.
No I don't really think this is what we should do but I figured some other people were being jackasses I can too.. sheesh..
I would rather not have troops over there permanently having to deal with massive amounts of suicide bombers and stuff..
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Old March 26th, 2011, 10:43 PM   #42
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No I don't really think this is what we should do but I figured some other people were being jackasses I can too.. sheesh..
I would rather not have troops over there permanently having to deal with massive amounts of suicide bombers and stuff..
I knew you were smarter than that. I was worried that being married to Mikey was dragging you down.

I could not agree with you more on the last part. We need our people home.
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Old March 26th, 2011, 10:47 PM   #43
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I knew you were smarter than that. I was worried that being married to Mikey was dragging you down.

I could not agree with you more on the last part. We need our people home.
Mikey is genius level smart.. I am not even blowing hot smoke up your ass
I am also not drunk..
Sometimes his hateful disposition rubs off on me but mostly I just keep him in his cage and throw him a snack.
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Old March 27th, 2011, 01:31 AM   #44
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Where do you get those stats?
What stats? I was expressing my opinion based on what I've seen. I have no stats, nor do I claim they exist, on the level of dislike that the rest of the world has for the USA based on Bush's policies.
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Old March 27th, 2011, 08:11 AM   #45
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What stats? I was expressing my opinion based on what I've seen. I have no stats, nor do I claim they exist, on the level of dislike that the rest of the world has for the USA based on Bush's policies.
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Yes, some always hated us. More did after Bush.
I just assumed by this statement you had some stats. So what you really are saying is in your opinion more did after Bush. Couldnt the opposite be said as well? How many times have we been told of the Iraqis that were so happy to see us there? Without being there we really cannot make an accurate assessment. It is just a guess at best.
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Old March 27th, 2011, 08:33 AM   #46
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What stats? I was expressing my opinion based on what I've seen. I have no stats, nor do I claim they exist, on the level of dislike that the rest of the world has for the USA based on Bush's policies.
The rest of the world does hate us and not because of Bush, well he may have a small hand in it. That tends to happen when you kick the hornets nest. They hated us before Bush.
I beleive the reason most other countries of the world dislike us is because we are a free nation and they are not.
Freedom is not free.
There are nations that would like to take that away from us.
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Why wish for Bush when you can wish for a Zombie Regan. I wish I may, I wish I might, have a Zombie Regan rise tonight....
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Bush was by far the worst president since Jimmy Carter. Obama was handed the country in the worst shape its been in since the great depression. He helped the auto companies get the loans they needed. So for you all that work for the auto companies shut your fucking mouth about bush being great. Second they were loans not Bailouts like bush gave to the banks and insurance companies. At least the money Obama gave out is being repaid.
As far as the health care goes if Bush,Clinton and SR Bush would have done something when they had the chance to do something. Obama wouldnt had to do what he did. He may not be the best President ever but he is better than the last two. Clinton started this economic down turn and Bush acclerated it. Now they leave it to Obama to solve the issue.
Those who want change for better ,Its not going to happen in 4 years. Remeber this is 16 years in the making. Lets just hope Ron Paul can get into office so we can see some real change.





Oh and those you that are Bush supporters sorry to hear that you were molested by your father's as children..............LOL
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They hate us because they're told to.

The majority of the Muslim world consists of illiterates who get their "world view" from the local clergyman. And history shows us that one of the best ways to keep obedient followers in line is to offer them a common enemy. Hitler did it, Stalin did it, Mao did it, and in much of the Muslim world today, it's Israel and their big brother the U.S.

Bush may have given them more ammo in the sense that he took clear and deliberate action but the hatred was already there. Any actions taken by Israel are 100X more inflammatory than anything Bush could or did do.

Large parts of the Muslim world are trying to have their dark ages - where uneducated people live in fear of the local cleric, who controls them. That's the appeal to the idle rich of Saudi Arabia (like bin Laden) - they have money they want power. Keeping the illiterate masses in line by making a monster to unite them and twisting their religion to control them has a long, successful history.

A relatively open, free society like ours is the enemy of what they're trying to do.
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Bush was by far the worst pre...................
.........o we can see some real change.





Oh and those you that are Bush supporters sorry to hear that you were molested by your father's as children..............LOL


What about that whole "largest national debt in history" thing? He (Pres Obama) has spent more then all the presidents that you mention combined and he did it with in 6 months of being elected. You can't spend money to get out of debt. It's Finance 101.

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They hate us because they're told to.

The majority of the Muslim world consists of illiterates who get their "world view" from the local clergyman. And history shows us that one of the best ways to keep obedient followers in line is to offer them a common enemy. Hitler did it, Stalin did it, Mao did it, and in much of the Muslim world today, it's Israel and their big brother the U.S.

Bush may have given them more ammo in the sense that he took clear and deliberate action but the hatred was already there. Any actions taken by Israel are 100X more inflammatory than anything Bush could or did do.

Large parts of the Muslim world are trying to have their dark ages - where uneducated people live in fear of the local cleric, who controls them. That's the appeal to the idle rich of Saudi Arabia (like bin Laden) - they have money they want power. Keeping the illiterate masses in line by making a monster to unite them and twisting their religion to control them has a long, successful history.

A relatively open, free society like ours is the enemy of what they're trying to do.
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Could this be considered the Muslim Crusades then?
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Old March 27th, 2011, 10:29 AM   #51
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Bush was by far the worst president since Jimmy Carter. Obama was handed the country in the worst shape its been in since the great depression. He helped the auto companies get the loans they needed. So for you all that work for the auto companies shut your fucking mouth about bush being great. Second they were loans not Bailouts like bush gave to the banks and insurance companies. At least the money Obama gave out is being repaid.
As far as the health care goes if Bush,Clinton and SR Bush would have done something when they had the chance to do something. Obama wouldnt had to do what he did. He may not be the best President ever but he is better than the last two. Clinton started this economic down turn and Bush acclerated it. Now they leave it to Obama to solve the issue.
Those who want change for better ,Its not going to happen in 4 years. Remeber this is 16 years in the making. Lets just hope Ron Paul can get into office so we can see some real change.
Interesting.

The bailouts of the banks and insurance companies were poorly thought-through and executed. Too much "go fast" and not enough "control". And the Congress and Senate had their hands all over TARP and wrote all manner of things into it. So, while it happened under Dubya's watch, the Pelosi Congress and Reid Senate have their fingerprints all over it and passed the bills - which they could have handily stopped and blocked any override attempt.

The auto bailouts were engineered by the Bush administration and followed-through on by Obie's. As I stated before, I support the auto bailouts since a large chunk of their problems were government-inflicted or government-exacerbated. Japan routinely and openly supports their auto industry with R&D money.

Bush, as more of a than a Conservative expanded government (and spending) too much. He surrounded himself with yes-men. And he made little effort to "sell" anything.

Early in his first term Bush was confronted with the 9/11 situation. His strength here was that he followed his principles, rather than polls like Clinton. While I disagree with going into Afghanistan and Iraq without a clear and achievable exit strategy ("imposing democracy" isn't one) he did both with good, solid reasoning - and support from the Congress. btw, intelligence later shown to be flawed doesn't negate the information available at the time.

Obama, on the other hand, is utterly out of his depth and everyone knows it.

He had the "friendliest" House and Senate in recent history and a mandate to take action - yet he spent two years getting little done except ramming a flawed, unpopular, and potentially unconstitutional healthcare plan through. It takes a special kind of incompetence to fail that largely.

And the whole Libya fiasco shows the true shallowness of his capabilities and experience - after a lot of mixed messages and meaningless double-talk, he flings a bunch of missiles after his manliness and resolve are widely called into question. All without consulting Congress...Reminds me of Clinton and the aspirin factory.

Dubya may have torqued off some foreign leaders by sticking to his guns and negotiating from the position that the U.S. is the pre-eminent world power. I'll take that over Obie apologizing and projecting the image of a dithering weakling. As Jimmuh Carter proved, a weak U.S. President makes for a more dangerous world as petty tyrants and others feel empowered to make their moves.

So, Obie fails massively in foreign policy and fails massively domestically with the "stimulus" package, which amounted to little more than payoffs to the unions and other supporters for services rendered.

Obie = Worst. President. Ever.
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Are we really supposed to be concerned with the opinion of someone that isnt even smart enough to not live in Westland?

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Correct as always
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They hate us because they're told to.

The majority of the Muslim world consists of illiterates who get their "world view" from the local clergyman. And history shows us that one of the best ways to keep obedient followers in line is to offer them a common enemy. Hitler did it, Stalin did it, Mao did it, and in much of the Muslim world today, it's Israel and their big brother the U.S.

Bush may have given them more ammo in the sense that he took clear and deliberate action but the hatred was already there. Any actions taken by Israel are 100X more inflammatory than anything Bush could or did do.

Large parts of the Muslim world are trying to have their dark ages - where uneducated people live in fear of the local cleric, who controls them. That's the appeal to the idle rich of Saudi Arabia (like bin Laden) - they have money they want power. Keeping the illiterate masses in line by making a monster to unite them and twisting their religion to control them has a long, successful history.

A relatively open, free society like ours is the enemy of what they're trying to do.
Yes, but I was hearing it from Europe and other parts of the world also.
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[QUOTE=C.K.;2598007]Are we really supposed to be concerned with the opinion of someone that isnt even smart enough to not live in Westland?
Actually i now live in Brighton never update that. But will be back in Iraq next month .
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Are we really supposed to be concerned with the opinion of someone that isnt even smart enough to not live in Westland?
Actually i now live in Brighton never update that. But will be back in Iraq next month .
To liberate the muslims
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I thought the title said "wish bush was black."
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Actually i now live in Brighton never update that. But will be back in Iraq next month .
Good luck in Iraq. Make it back in one piece.
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Yes, but I was hearing it from Europe and other parts of the world also.

Europe has a collective inferiority complex.

They want the U.S. to be much more humble and understand it's place in the world as one of their equals. And they'd like us to behave much more like them - i.e. junior socialists with punishing taxation and cradle-to-grave social programs.

The post-WW2 generation doesn't (or won't) remember the Marshall Plan and the fact that the U.S. taxpayer rebuilt the European economy to levels that exceeded pre-war levels.

They resent the fact they're in our debt, giving us the magnanimous high ground.
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Are we really supposed to be concerned with the opinion of someone that isnt even smart enough to not live in Westland?
Actually i now live in Brighton never update that. But will be back in Iraq next month .
Keep your head down. Thanks for your service.
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Europe has a collective inferiority complex.

They want the U.S. to be much more humble and understand it's place in the world as one of their equals. And they'd like us to behave much more like them - i.e. junior socialists with punishing taxation and cradle-to-grave social programs.

The post-WW2 generation doesn't (or won't) remember the Marshall Plan and the fact that the U.S. taxpayer rebuilt the European economy to levels that exceeded pre-war levels.

They resent the fact they're in our debt, giving us the magnanimous high ground.
Just say it... you don't care is people from other countries hate us.
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