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Old March 17th, 2011, 07:37 PM   #1
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Question flat towwing

I want to set up my blazer for flat towing. I have been searching this and everyother forum that I can to get a good answer.

Just so that you all know, I do have access to a trailer, It is not my trialer, it is a friends and dont want to get stranded if for some reason I cant use the trailer when I need it. I have been told that I can use it when ever but things never work out that well for me.

I dont have the cash for a trailer right now if I spend that money on the rig getting it ready for the trail.

Here are my questions:

1. If (can) I put the transfer case (NP 208) in N do I need to remove the drive shafts?

2. I have a set of rollers so tire wear is not a concern but what else is going to where out fast? I know that its just like driving it for all the spining parts but what am I not thinking of. I have never flat towed before.

3. Do I need to put the Trans in N ( 700r4 )

4. With the 10 bolt front axel unlocked do I ever need to remove that drive shaft?


I may be over thinking this, I just want to be safe. I see RV's do it all over the country but with Jeeps and trackers.

For the price of a Tow bar I can aford to just keep the tow bar in the garage for that rainy day.

Also if anyone has any suggestion from there experiences let me know.

I also can leave it at the cottage where I will be wheeling most of the time if i break it to much to flat tow it if the trailer is not available.
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Old March 17th, 2011, 07:48 PM   #2
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unlock the hubs put t-case in neutral and go if your rear is locked use rollers if ya got them otherwise don't over think it too much it is pretty straight forward
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Old March 17th, 2011, 07:54 PM   #3
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unlock the hubs put t-case in neutral and go if your rear is locked use rollers if ya got them otherwise don't over think it too much it is pretty straight forward
i flat towed with my rear axle welded and it was fine
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Old March 17th, 2011, 08:11 PM   #4
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both axels are locked, i have bias swampers and they will get wasted quick if I tow with them on.
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Old March 18th, 2011, 07:19 AM   #5
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no one else has any input? I thought I would get a ton of experts. I need info!
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Old March 18th, 2011, 07:36 AM   #6
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Not an expert but always have input.
I towed a jeep had a dana 44 rear I pointed the pinion up for better drive shaft angle in doing that the fill plug got lower in the cover so I did not have enough gear lube in rear end so had trouble with wheel and pinion bearings, also consider gear ratio if you have say 5;13 gears and towed at 70 mile per rear shaft will be shinning very fast. Transfer case oil pump drives off of rear drive shaft output I beleive so that should be fine. Tranfer case in N and trasmission in park would be great.
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Old March 18th, 2011, 07:46 AM   #7
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I've always heard trans in neutral "just in case" personally I would pull the rear shaft. I've never flat towed personaly. Yes, your rig has to have a plate on It if you flat tow it.
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Old March 18th, 2011, 08:05 AM   #8
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the rig is plated but not completly legal as most of our rigs are.
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Old March 19th, 2011, 06:43 PM   #9
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no info but from what i read when i was serching was just pull the rear shaft, also i have a brand new curtis tow bar i bought and have no need for and has never been used if your interested.
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no info but from what i read when i was serching was just pull the rear shaft, also i have a brand new curtis tow bar i bought and have no need for and has never been used if your interested.
I do need a tow bar, but your on the other side of the state, it will cost me more in gas and pay you anything, then it will for me to pick one up around here for $80 - $100

but thanks
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Old March 19th, 2011, 07:27 PM   #11
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no problem i didnt look up your location just kinda threw it out there no biggie
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This past summer I flat towed a cucv M1008 back from western Wisconsin. Two months prior I made the same drive towing my girlfriend laura's car on an open car hauler. Both trips I was using my '97 Yukon.

I didnt like the swaying of the truck while flat towing it. Also, having 6k worth of weight at the back of the Yukon with no braking aid is just an uneasy feeling. I didn't feel comfortable driving over 55-60mph with the flat towing setup.

Hauling the car on the trailer did not sway and I was comfortable cruising at 70.

For the record though, I did get better mileage when I was flat towing the truck (14.5mpg) than when I towed the car on the hauler (12.5).

My opinion, having done both, trailering is the way to go.
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Old March 20th, 2011, 08:25 AM   #13
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This past summer I flat towed a cucv M1008 back from western Wisconsin. Two months prior I made the same drive towing my girlfriend laura's car on an open car hauler. Both trips I was using my '97 Yukon.

I didnt like the swaying of the truck while flat towing it. Also, having 6k worth of weight at the back of the Yukon with no braking aid is just an uneasy feeling. I didn't feel comfortable driving over 55-60mph with the flat towing setup.

Hauling the car on the trailer did not sway and I was comfortable cruising at 70.

For the record though, I did get better mileage when I was flat towing the truck (14.5mpg) than when I towed the car on the hauler (12.5).

My opinion, having done both, trailering is the way to go.

I will be using a trailer when ever I can but if I can not use the trailer for some reason I want a back up for when i cant barrow the trailer that my buddy said I could "use when ever I want as long as he is not, but I hardly ever use it"
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Do i really need to pull the rear drive shaft? I have heard both now. Is putting the NP208 in N good enough?
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i say both in neutral n ull be fine. yea the d shaft would b spinning around quite fast ay 70 but im willing to bet that thing will be rather sketchy to flat tow over 55. plus pulling the d shaft sucks cuz ull have to tape up u u joint or somthing to avoid the capps falling offf n secure it up away from the axle, (not so much room) or trans fluid will come out if you pull the shaft completly and shit off the road will get in. so in going with neutral for both n unlock hubs.
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i say both in neutral n ull be fine. yea the d shaft would b spinning around quite fast ay 70 but im willing to bet that thing will be rather sketchy to flat tow over 55. plus pulling the d shaft sucks cuz ull have to tape up u u joint or somthing to avoid the capps falling offf n secure it up away from the axle, (not so much room) or trans fluid will come out if you pull the shaft completly and shit off the road will get in. so in going with neutral for both n unlock hubs.
as with most answers what everyone is telling me I kinda knew what you are telling me, as I have said this will be just a back up. I dont know how sketchy it will be with a set of rollers for a stock truck, but I am still concerned about it and will take it slow st first.
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Put t-case in neutral, go slow(for safety) and keep the distance to a minimum. You can tow as far as you want with the case in neutral but if you are going more that 25 miles your nerves will be better off using a trailer anyway. It is only necessary to pull the drive shafts when the t-case doesn't have a neutral position.
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it is fine to put t-case in N, unlike the 205, on the 208 the oil pump is ran off the rear driveshaft. so when the driveshaft is turning the case is being lubed. with hubs unlocked the front shaft will not turn. you could remove the rear axle, but why create more work for yourself. bottom line use a good tow bar and saftey chains, if you plan to flat tow on a reg basis there are tool that you can put in the towed vehicle to help with the breaking that can be found at a good hitch store. in MI when towing a trailer or other vehicle max speed is 60, and right two lanes just like the big rigs. hope this helps.
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