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Old March 16th, 2011, 09:16 PM   #21
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I was there today...it was pretty impressive the amount of people there...there were people from everything, teachers, uaw, ibew, ironworkers, myself and fellow pipefitters, firefighters, etc...it was neat to see how many people came to stand together
Stand together for what? Do you even know the truth or facts of what's going on?
Did you lose a days pay for this or is the union paying for it?
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Old March 16th, 2011, 09:19 PM   #22
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Bunch of uninformed union dipshits.

Doing whatever their union bosses tell them to do, but don't understand they are being used.
Don't forget the Stinky hippies. Which, oddly enough, could be clumped into some of the teachers that were probably there. .
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Old March 16th, 2011, 09:45 PM   #23
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I doubt you even got off your ass today.

Do you really think anyone believes anything you say? Or cares for that matter.
How does it feel to be liked as much as that Wickeddicklicker asshole?
i was there pal, The video of Moore's Crew will show me sitting down in the middle of the floor. i think it was all about him to show how the Police would react to us. Some people where put out on there ass outside. So
i can careless who thinks i was there or not. it only matters to me and who was there.

I would stand for something then to the nothings here bashing people all the time,
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Old March 16th, 2011, 10:36 PM   #24
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So why were you there?

What are you protesting?
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Old March 16th, 2011, 10:51 PM   #25
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So why were you there?

What are you protesting?
The tough questions are coming now folks . . .


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Old March 16th, 2011, 11:01 PM   #26
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So why were you there?

What are you protesting?
To get in the New Michael Moore Movie
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Old March 16th, 2011, 11:06 PM   #27
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The tough questions are coming now folks . . .


For Rockstar? Yeah like what's 2+2.
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Old March 17th, 2011, 08:40 AM   #28
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The only thing about Snyder's policy I don't like is the power he wants to give to his emergency financial managers.

They will have the right to dissolve local governments. That's too much power.
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Old March 17th, 2011, 09:13 AM   #29
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The only thing about Snyder's policy I don't like is the power he wants to give to his emergency financial managers.

They will have the right to dissolve local governments. That's too much power.
If the local governments can't balance their own bugets then what do you do? Let them layoff cops and fire fighters? Pontiac can't seem to get it together and they are now going to get Oakland Co. Sherriff to police the city.
The idea is to make sure the cities stay up and running.
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If the local governments can't balance their own bugets then what do you do? Let them layoff cops and fire fighters? Pontiac can't seem to get it together and they are now going to get Oakland Co. Sherriff to police the city.
The idea is to make sure the cities stay up and running.
right, but they are still elected officials. Whether they suck or not is not the point. They were put their by voting. Yes I would rather see most politicians taken out of office but it shouldn't be done like that.
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For Rockstar? Yeah like what's 2+2.
I was in the Detroit Plumbers local Union #98. http://www.ualocal98.org/

When i move to Las Vegas http://local525.org/

My Rant about this if you do not have Unions to help Save your ass the Co. will walk all over you.

People who are in Michigan Unions will get a pay cut and work in unsafe working conditions. and no one to help.

The Due's are for a lot of reason. and are not to be taken lightly

and to be on the Movie will be a part of something i can say i took part in. not sit around and wait for shit to hit the fan and say Duh why did that happen.

oh and someone there had a ipad playing ( where not going to take it ) Twisted Sister

ok Bash on! i will not reply back

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Old March 17th, 2011, 12:55 PM   #32
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I was in the Detroit Plumbers local Union #98. http://www.ualocal98.org/

When i move to Las Vegas http://local525.org/

My Rant about this if you do not have Unions to help Save your ass the Co. will walk all over you.

People who are in Michigan Unions will get a pay cut and work in unsafe working conditions. and no one to help.

The Due's are for a lot of reason. and are not to be taken lightly

and to be on the Movie will be a part of something i can say i took part in. not sit around and wait for shit to hit the fan and say Duh why did that happen.

oh and someone there had a ipad playing ( where not going to take it ) Twisted Sister

ok Bash on! i will not reply back
So what you're saying is that if the unions get canned MOSHA will too? RIGGGHHHTTT.

Unions are great, I'm in one, the one that was supposed to be there. Three things can happen. The Union can walk all over the employer (the taxpayers in this case, what is going on right now), the Employer can walk all over the employee (becaus of no union), or, my favorite option, people need to stop being greedy and meet somewhere in the middle. The unions need to realize they can't keep the standard for thier members they have been and make significant cuts and the Employers need to respect labor laws. I think they can do this with out unions. JMO.
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Old March 17th, 2011, 01:24 PM   #33
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I was in the Detroit Plumbers local Union #98. http://www.ualocal98.org/

When i move to Las Vegas http://local525.org/

My Rant about this if you do not have Unions to help Save your ass the Co. will walk all over you.

People who are in Michigan Unions will get a pay cut and work in unsafe working conditions. and no one to help.

The Due's are for a lot of reason. and are not to be taken lightly

and to be on the Movie will be a part of something i can say i took part in. not sit around and wait for shit to hit the fan and say Duh why did that happen.

oh and someone there had a ipad playing ( where not going to take it ) Twisted Sister

ok Bash on! i will not reply back
Pure and simple bullshit. I haven't worked for a union based company in over 20 years. OSHA still shows up for inspections, fire department still shows up for inspection, and insurance companies still do inspections, not to mention that 40 hour and overtime FEDERAL rules still apply.

You don't need a union to guarantee safe working conditions. That's 50 year old hype.

As far as a company walking all over you............ Our employees are some of the highest paid in the area.
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Old March 17th, 2011, 01:58 PM   #34
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Damned hippies.
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Old March 17th, 2011, 02:03 PM   #35
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Pure and simple bullshit. I haven't worked for a union based company in over 20 years. OSHA still shows up for inspections, fire department still shows up for inspection, and insurance companies still do inspections, not to mention that 40 hour and overtime FEDERAL rules still apply.

You don't need a union to guarantee safe working conditions. That's 50 year old hype.

As far as a company walking all over you............ Our employees are some of the highest paid in the area.
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The company I work for has been in business since 1915, never been unionized, and is one of the most sought after private firms in this state for my field. The partners create and uphold a real family style organization for the employees.
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Old March 17th, 2011, 08:20 PM   #36
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Pure and simple bullshit. I haven't worked for a union based company in over 20 years. OSHA still shows up for inspections, fire department still shows up for inspection, and insurance companies still do inspections, not to mention that 40 hour and overtime FEDERAL rules still apply.

You don't need a union to guarantee safe working conditions. That's 50 year old hype.

As far as a company walking all over you............ Our employees are some of the highest paid in the area.
He's just a moron that will believe any bullshit his "leaders" tell him. He's not capable of thinking for himself.

His idea of "being part of something" is supporting a marxist asshole (Moore) what more needs to be said.
He has no idea at all of what is really going on.

And he "wont reply back" because he's not smart enough. I'm sure he's searching You Tube for what he believes is a clever response.

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Old March 17th, 2011, 08:54 PM   #37
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any event that has cockstar in attendance is doomed from inception.
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Old March 17th, 2011, 09:16 PM   #38
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I saw on the news today that teachers brought their kids to protest with them. I see this as being wrong on so many levels. Those teachers should be fired. If I was a parent of one of those kids I would demand it.
They will never get fired unfortunately thanks to a tenure their union gave them. It takes an awful lot for a shitty teacher to get fired.

If you get bored, go look up all the stuff the teacher's union supports. You have it made as long as you aren't a hetro white guy.

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Pure and simple bullshit. I haven't worked for a union based company in over 20 years. OSHA still shows up for inspections, fire department still shows up for inspection, and insurance companies still do inspections, not to mention that 40 hour and overtime FEDERAL rules still apply.

You don't need a union to guarantee safe working conditions. That's 50 year old hype.

As far as a company walking all over you............ Our employees are some of the highest paid in the area.
Non-union here too and we get the inspections too.

Like I heard said, the only people a union helps are those in a union.
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Old March 18th, 2011, 05:10 AM   #39
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Pure and simple bullshit. I haven't worked for a union based company in over 20 years. OSHA still shows up for inspections, fire department still shows up for inspection, and insurance companies still do inspections, not to mention that 40 hour and overtime FEDERAL rules still apply.

You don't need a union to guarantee safe working conditions. That's 50 year old hype.

As far as a company walking all over you............ Our employees are some of the highest paid in the area.
This must be lies. If you arent pro-union you cant be telling the truth.


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He's just a moron that will believe any bullshit his "leaders" tell him. He's not capable of thinking for himself.
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any event that has cockstar in attendance is doomed from inception.
Sooo very true. Also a crowd I would not take much stock in their opinion.

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Non-union here too and we get the inspections too.

Like I heard said, the only people a union helps are those in a union.
Must be more lies.


Did unions help get wages and working conditions to a level they should be at? Yes.

Are all Union workers lazy and overpaid? Of course not. Just those that work with Rockstar.

Is the union management as corrupt as the government? Of course.

Does the union drive jobs away? Yes, in some case. I have never seen an instance where they have created jobs.

Is it time to be rid of the union. Yes.

Personally I have no problem with the majority of union workers. I have some good friends that are union members. They work as hard or harder than anyone else. That doesnt mean that the union as a whole doesnt drive jobs to a cheaper source. Personally I dont understand how an entity that makes it too expensive for a company to operate and force the company to leave in search of cheaper labor is a good thing.
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I was in the Detroit Plumbers local Union #98. http://www.ualocal98.org/

When i move to Las Vegas http://local525.org/

My Rant about this if you do not have Unions to help Save your ass the Co. will walk all over you.

People who are in Michigan Unions will get a pay cut and work in unsafe working conditions. and no one to help.

The Due's are for a lot of reason. and are not to be taken lightly

and to be on the Movie will be a part of something i can say i took part in. not sit around and wait for shit to hit the fan and say Duh why did that happen.

oh and someone there had a ipad playing ( where not going to take it ) Twisted Sister

ok Bash on! i will not reply back
Spoken like a true puppet. Your brain dead.



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Pure and simple bullshit. I haven't worked for a union based company in over 20 years. OSHA still shows up for inspections, fire department still shows up for inspection, and insurance companies still do inspections, not to mention that 40 hour and overtime FEDERAL rules still apply.

You don't need a union to guarantee safe working conditions. That's 50 year old hype.

As far as a company walking all over you............ Our employees are some of the highest paid in the area.
This is very true, and in fact it seems the non-union shops get hit harder by state inspections than the union ones do.



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He's just a moron that will believe any bullshit his "leaders" tell him. He's not capable of thinking for himself.

His idea of "being part of something" is supporting a marxist asshole (Moore) what more needs to be said.
He has no idea at all of what is really going on.

And he "wont reply back" because he's not smart enough. I'm sure he's searching You Tube for what he believes is a clever response.
Moore is a douche and needs to be jailed for the bullshit he spreads.


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any event that has cockstar in attendance is doomed from inception.
Unfortunately I have to agree with this. I never realized how big of a piece of shit cockstar was until i started reading some of his posts. He really has no clue.
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