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Old April 21st, 2011, 08:53 AM   #41
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I don't intend on owning another jeep/fullsize suv for quite some time.

I plan to have a Polaris RzR when funds allow.

That said, tight twisty, fast fun, hilly technical trails, fast open trails, fast tight trails, rocks, etc.

I can live with out the mud.

I don't mind the rzr/fullsize mix, but dirtbikes and atv's with jeeps seems wrong.
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Old April 21st, 2011, 09:15 AM   #42
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Where in Lapeer county?
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Old April 21st, 2011, 09:18 AM   #43
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Where in Lapeer county?
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&sa...ed=0CB4Q8gEwAA
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Old April 21st, 2011, 09:28 AM   #44
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Not where IS Lapeer county. Where IN Lapeer county?

I know where Lapeer county is considering I have lived there my whole life.
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Old April 21st, 2011, 10:06 AM   #45
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I agree with wadey a night run everyonce in awhile and a annual pass would be nice! Get this thing open we wanna wheel!!
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Old April 21st, 2011, 10:36 AM   #46
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Not where IS Lapeer county. Where IN Lapeer county?

I know where Lapeer county is considering I have lived there my whole life.
10 min from you
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Old April 21st, 2011, 10:54 AM   #47
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With 1700 acres you could build the ultimate play ground.you could have separate areas for full size trucks and quads/bikes/side by sides,and mixed areas so you can wheel together if your group has bikes and trucks.
I like tight twisty tec.trails for a modestly built rig the most,but rocks,mud,sand,hill climbs are all good places to break your stuff,so bring it also.
I live near gr and every park is at least two hours away,i did the mounds 5 times,twisted 4 times,bundy three times,rocks and valleys once last year.I hope I can do as many or more trips this year, hope fully work will be steady.
A small store with basic parts and a area to wrench on your broken stuff wouldnt be bad if you could get past the lawyers,you could even have a welder/torches for rent.
You could have a campground,a nice one, with attractions for people that dont wheel,but spend alota money on camping.the campgrounds around my house are always full,if the weather is decent.peaple book sites a year in advance for the big holidays.
The campground could help fund the park ,if it was nice and away from the noise somewhat.
The possibilities are endless with that much land
A bar/resturant?
Quarter car wash?
Big ideas,i know. I've thought about doing this for a few years,but its not in the cards for me right now,maybe someday.
If you build it,they will come.
The cooler you make it,will make them come back and often.
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Old April 25th, 2011, 02:03 PM   #48
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Totally agree with ^^^ somewhere to fix ur broken shit would be awesome. I was charged $40 at bundy hill just for a lower control arm mount to be welded and i thought that was rediculous having a welder to rent I would have done it myself. If u have a different area for bikes and vehicles i expect a motocross track:)
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Old April 25th, 2011, 02:17 PM   #49
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So, would you bitch that renting the welder for $40/hour is too much?
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Old April 25th, 2011, 02:20 PM   #50
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Your really bitching about $40 repair bill for someone to weld you up at a park?



I was on Drummond limping my ass around in front wheel drive trying to find a fab shop. I finally found one he charged me $60 to rebuild my rear truss with 3/8's plate. At that point I would have paid him $300 just to finish my weekend...

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Old April 25th, 2011, 02:28 PM   #51
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hmmmmmmmmm so you start talking to someone about a broken part.

Discussion about what it will take. 5 minutes
Pull it around back. 5 minutes
Guy pulls his welder out, plugs it in, cleans tip, helmet lens, gets his gloves. 10 minutes
Crawls underneath with Mitabo wire wheel to clean surfaces. 5 minutes
Lines it up, clamps it, hammers it, to get it back in place. 5 minutes
Welds it. (the short easy part) 2 minutes.
Crawls back out, wipes the dust off his clothes, puts all his shit away. 5 minutes.

So, a total of 37 minutes give or take. Most any shop will charge $50-75 per hour. 37 minutes is 61% of an hour x $75/hr = $46.25.

So, in a captive market on a weekend, you want to bitch about $40? Time for you to get a new hobby.

With all that said, back on topic. I don't think a repair shop will support itself until your park is huge with steady customers like the Badlands. A weekend shop where the bulk of your customers are there for Saturday only won't support the cost of setting up a shop and paying an employee.
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Old April 26th, 2011, 01:03 AM   #52
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I was willing to pay the $40 to keep playing for the day that's obviously why I did it. Altho $40 for 2 beads to me is a lot. Was a 5 min repair and should be a total of about 15 min half the shit u said was uneeded so yes I thought that was a lil pricey. $40 an hour is fine to use a welder if u need a whole hour I needed 15 min tops and coulda done it myself. Point is somewhere to rent tools and fix your shit would be nice but like whiterhino said the park would have to be busy enough to accommodate that
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Old April 26th, 2011, 07:22 AM   #53
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$40 an hour is fine to use a welder if u need a whole hour I needed 15 min tops and coulda done it myself.
The same could be said about a prostitute...

Anyway. On topic.

There aren't many places where I could thinking of this being, but if its the general area I assume I could see going every other weekend, maybe more if challenge is there.
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Old April 26th, 2011, 07:52 AM   #54
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Given the opportunity to create your own park, what would be on the top of your list of things you would like to see?

On site camping?
Even though I am only 45 mins away.. I would still camp. It could be fun just for something different


Trail types?
Tight, twisty, technical, longer trails where maybe you can spend hours on a trail instead of minutes would be fun.

Full size only or cycle and atv's as well?
Don't mix them them but maybe offer weekends for one then the other....?

Rocks?
Rocks are a M U S T.. Different sizes, added to the trails and a simple rock area...

Hill climbs?
Yes, have some HP climbs as well as some fun techical climbs..

Mud?
Gotta please the mud billies.. So I would add some, also that way if they have their little area, they might stay away from rock gardens and other stuff and not destroy them when being idoits.

What about location? If it were just outside the Oakland County line, how often do you think you would visit?
Once again living only 45 mins away.. I would go a few times a month if it had some technical stuff to keep me busy.. And I would still go considering its closer then the mounds to me.

Things that I would add, like stated above, a night run for the people staying or organized event.

A shower/bath house.

For tools and stuff.. It would be nice to have a simple concrete pad or something that we could put the jeeps on so that when you need to fix them in the parking lot you can have a nice flat surface.. (Or use the trailers..)

Also, have somewhere you can sit and eat in the parking lot like the mounds, R&V doesnt have that and with a large group, some picnic tables would have been nice....

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And to add to above... I would offer my time to help with trail building and cutting WHEN your ready.. :)
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Old April 26th, 2011, 08:17 AM   #56
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I was willing to pay the $40 to keep playing for the day that's obviously why I did it. Altho $40 for 2 beads to me is a lot. Was a 5 min repair and should be a total of about 15 min half the shit u said was uneeded so yes I thought that was a lil pricey. $40 an hour is fine to use a welder if u need a whole hour I needed 15 min tops and coulda done it myself. Point is somewhere to rent tools and fix your shit would be nice but like whiterhino said the park would have to be busy enough to accommodate that
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Old April 26th, 2011, 08:44 AM   #57
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I have a feeling I am a minority on this one, but I would also like to see a "fast" section in the park, something that has a lot of small whoops and fast corners to test suspensions/roll/braking. It would certainly appeal to the RZR crowd a lot too.
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Old April 26th, 2011, 08:53 AM   #58
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Maybe make a mud pit, like the one they use at hollister for top truck challenge. A 300ft long sunken run. That'd make a spot that people would go one at a time, more of a spectator spot.

I remember in several things on those old TTC videos, they have posts driven i along the sides, to prevent people from going in sideways, etc, like they seem to do at the mounds (oh, won't it be fun to go sideways in 2wd with my tractor tires and dig a giant rut through here....).
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Old April 26th, 2011, 10:27 AM   #59
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Kickstand blow me! Anyways hope to see this park done soon I wanna wheel
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