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Old February 24th, 2011, 07:28 PM   #21
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Have you priced what a 7" lift and the related necessities would cost? Just something to think about.

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if i use my short arms(which i wouldnt) for springs, shocks lookin at 499 without shipping and no custom world to my axles but that would have to happen. this isnt a snap ur fingers and this shit is done. its going to take alittle bit of time. then i could sell my 4.5 lift stuff....
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if i use my short arms(which i wouldnt) for springs, shocks lookin at 499 without shipping and no custom world to my axles but that would have to happen. this isnt a snap ur fingers and this shit is done. its going to take alittle bit of time. then i could sell my 4.5 lift stuff....
So if you won't use your short arms, what additional $$$ will you be looking at realistically? You're basically going for a higher COG, and spending more money to do it. Search the Hardcore Jeep forum at pirate4x4 for "low COG" and see some of the ideas out there. You'd be money ahead to keep it low, and the road manners would likely be better, too, since it is your DD.

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Old February 24th, 2011, 07:42 PM   #23
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So if you won't use your short arms, what additional $$$ will you be looking at realistically? You're basically going for a higher COG, and spending more money to do it. Search the Hardcore Jeep forum at pirate4x4 for "low COG" and see some of the ideas out there. You'd be money ahead to keep it low, and the road manners would likely be better, too, since it is your DD.

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wat do u think about 5.5 long arm. still 2 high?
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Old February 24th, 2011, 07:46 PM   #24
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wat do u think about 5.5 long arm. still 2 high?
I don't think there's necessarily a right answer. Do some searching, and see what other people run into. Driveshaft angles get difficult for higher lifts, and there seems to be a domino effect on issues/money when going high. Just search via Google. You'll find a lot of good information. I personally wouldn't rely on one or two opinions (including mine) to make the decision. Search, search, search.

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Old February 25th, 2011, 11:08 AM   #25
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anyone know if a stock dana 44 rear out of a cherokee would be a good choice for the rear?? those axles had the towing package. is there lots of after market part aval.?
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anyone know if a stock dana 44 rear out of a cherokee would be a good choice for the rear?? those axles had the towing package. is there lots of after market part aval.?
It's a great choice, but it'll require all new brackets for the ZJ, welding, etc. There's a ton of aftermarket support for them (gears, shafts, lockers, etc.). I have one that's planned for my daugher's XJ.

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may just be better off with a 8.8, easier and cheaper to come by, and as well have great support and come with disk brakes already as well.
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Old February 25th, 2011, 11:29 AM   #28
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may just be better off with a 8.8, easier and cheaper to come by, and as well have great support and come with disk brakes already as well.
tanks mini. those r 5x4.5 still right??
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yes, still 5x4.5

The iron 44 out of a cherokee and the 8.8 are similar in strength with the 8.8 having just a slight advantage. The downfall to the 44 is they are much harder to come by and usually go for more, they also didn't come stock with disc brakes like the 8.8 did.
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yes, still 5x4.5

The iron 44 out of a cherokee and the 8.8 are similar in strength with the 8.8 having just a slight advantage. The downfall to the 44 is they are much harder to come by and usually go for more, they also didn't come stock with disc brakes like the 8.8 did.
umm good that you pointed that out.
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Old February 25th, 2011, 01:08 PM   #31
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Shit, I didn't even read all of what you wrote....
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Shit, I didn't even read all of what you wrote....
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When I had my ZJ I put an 8.8 in the back. The brackets are different from a TJ, I've put 3 8.8's in TJ's. And I could not find anybody selling a bracket kit for a ZJ, so I ended up cutting off the brackets and welding them on the 8.8.
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When I had my ZJ I put an 8.8 in the back. The brackets are different from a TJ, I've put 3 8.8's in TJ's. And I could not find anybody selling a bracket kit for a ZJ, so I ended up cutting off the brackets and welding them on the 8.8.
X2 that is your best option.
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I just ordered brackets from Ironrock Offroad. I think there are a few others out there that make ZJ kits, and I think with minor modification you can make a TJ kit work. I have no interest in using the old shitty, thin brackets that are on my 35, if I'm going to upgrade the axle I'm not going to secure it to vehicle with piss-poor mounts
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http://www.ironrockoffroad.com/Merch...egory_Code=PFZ

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that be the way to do it, didn't realize that made a kit for them. Sweet.
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Old February 25th, 2011, 06:05 PM   #38
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i was looking at an 8.8 today at lkq and i thinki it was locked up...am i better off finding one on here or craigslist?
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wherever you can find one for cheap. That is the exact kit I bought from Iron Rock
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I Googled "zj rear axle bracket kit" and this was the first result

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