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Old February 14th, 2011, 01:16 PM   #1
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Scenario:
1/2 ton GM spindles/steering arms with 7deg taper to mount tierods from the top.

What I need to do:
Mount the tie rod ends from the bottom side of the arms (i.e., I need the taper exactly opposite of what I have). I need to do this to optimize my steering geometry / negate bumpsteer.

Any suggestions?
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I have seen several of the hot rod guys that switch to a rack use small heims with tapered studs. Is that an option for your setup?
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if there's enough material on the knuckle, use a tapered reamer and tie rod end bushings if needed

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http://completeoffroad.com/i-122857-...-in-u-s-a.html

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http://completeoffroad.com/i-123283-...ana-44-60.html
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Old February 14th, 2011, 02:43 PM   #4
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I have seen several of the hot rod guys that switch to a rack use small heims with tapered studs. Is that an option for your setup?
Sorta - except the taper goes the wrong way.

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if there's enough material on the knuckle, use a tapered reamer and tie rod end bushings if needed

reamer link (or find somebody on GL who has one)

http://completeoffroad.com/i-122857-...-in-u-s-a.html

tie rod bushings

http://completeoffroad.com/i-123283-...ana-44-60.html
I'm wondering if there is a difference between the 1/2 ton & 1 ton TRE stud size - that would determine if I need the sleeve or not...
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Sorta - except the taper goes the wrong way.



I'm wondering if there is a difference between the 1/2 ton & 1 ton TRE stud size - that would determine if I need the sleeve or not...
I took some measurements of a Chevy 1-ton TRE on the shelf.

Largest diameter of taper - .785"
Smallest diameter of taper - .710"
Threaded stud diameter - .615"

remember that I did this quickly and these should be considered approximate measurements
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I'm wondering if there is a difference between the 1/2 ton & 1 ton TRE stud size - that would determine if I need the sleeve or not...
I don't know about that application. But I do know that the tie rods I got from JCR for my 1-ton steering, the drag link joints are a different dia then the tie rod ends.
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I took some measurements of a Chevy 1-ton TRE on the shelf.

Largest diameter of taper - .785"
Smallest diameter of taper - .710"
Threaded stud diameter - .615"

remember that I did this quickly and these should be considered approximate measurements
Awesome! I'm off to get some measurements on mine with some calipers.

Thanks!

Edit:
73-87 GM 1/2T TRE:
Largest diameter of taper - 0.730"
Smallest diameter of taper - 0.600"

I'm not positive, but I thinK I might be able to get away with drilling 45/64" (0.703") & reaming for using with the 1T TREs...
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I swear I have seen exactly what you need on speedway motors. I'll look tonight. Or give them a call, they're helpfull people.
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Largest diameter of taper - 0.730"
Smallest diameter of taper - 0.600"
Or why not drill the whole thing out to .75" and use a .75" heim and bolt?
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I swear I have seen exactly what you need on speedway motors. I'll look tonight. Or give them a call, they're helpfull people.
Something like this? I need that, but "upside down"...

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Or why not drill the whole thing out to .75" and use a .75" heim and bolt?

That is another possibility too.
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ballistic fab makes a weld in insert,drill knuckle to 1in, insert,weld,done
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Thanks!

I may go that route if the inserts I ordered from Seven Springs don't work. They should be here Tuesday. And I should clarify- the only reason the parts from Complete Offroad wouldn't work would be if I reamed my steering out too far.

We'll see, but I think I've got it covered.
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