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Old February 19th, 2011, 09:14 PM   #101
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Douglas Voorheis Manifesto Rev. 1
1.) Develop domestic forms of fuel, establish a reinvestment of the tax dollars gleaned from the revenue and reinvest it into renewable forms of energy. Stop sending trillions of dollars over seas to purchase oil from countries that support terrorism. Set a 10 year plan into action to wean the US from importing fuel from Communist or terrorist supporting nations.
2.) 20 percent tariffs on all China made goods immediately; rising by 5 percent each year for each year China refuses to revalue their currency. Make it illegal to import goods of any form of Socialist, communist, dictatorship nation. Any time you go to the store and buy shit stamped made in china, you are supporting our enemy.
3.) Defend our borders. Arizona is doing what the US government is not willing to do. Finish the fence between the US and Mexico. Kill any illegal’s invading our country; send their corpse home with a trebuchet.
4.) Make the prison system as close to self sustaining a possible. We have a safety net society that has created a segment of the population into dependants of the state. Most of the individuals within the prison system are not being trained or rehabilitated to be self sufficient individuals if and when they are released after serving their debt to society. There is clearly a need for farm laborers. The prisoners should be dependent on raising their own food, and maintaining a group of animals as needed to feed themselves. Train the incarcerated to replace the illegal aliens by making them dependant on their ability to raise their own food geographically to match the prison location. Texas should train prisoners to maintain ranches, Floridians to pick oranges and strawberries, Michigan to pick apples. Non compliance or lack of success would require rationing of food and prosperity in the prison, just as it is in free society.
I am gainfully employed and continue to grow a garden every year. Why should the prisoners get three meals a day and not do a damn thing to support themselves. Train them to support themselves in free society, stop making them into life time dependence.
Horticulture, Milking, Ranching, Fruit Gathering, Meet preparation, Packaging, Row Cropping, any where there is a presents of illegal aliens train the prisoners to replace them.
Offer early release for success and good behavior. Subsidies to the farms that hire the released prisoners. Use the farms that use the released prisoners for training grounds for the incarcerated. Repeat and return offenders should be punished. Three time felony offenders should suffer capital punishment.
5.) Decriminalize marijuana. Make any other drug offense that is violent, involves weapons, minors, or previous drug offenders a felony. Three convictions for three felonies gets you executed.
6.) Eliminate all public assistance for able-bodied recipients. Cut off all public assistance for failure to show up to a work program on a timely basis.
7.) Change unemployment to be a self funded program in which a percentage of your hourly wage is invested into a fund that has a guaranteed interest rate of 1-1/2% over the rate of inflation that will be paid back by a monthly draw over a two year period or at time of disability or retirement. When the monies in the account are used up, your no longer receive payment.
8.) All out war on any group or nation that attacks the US. Destroy Pakistan if necessary; get out of Afghanistan. Those people cannot be taught differently it is in their heritage, let them dominate each other.
9.) Make abortions illegal, except when the physical survival of the mother is threatened, to be determined by three medical doctors. Require Norplant for all women on welfare of childbearing age.
10.) Encourage child bearing among taxpaying citizens. Create a marriage incentive, through lower taxes for married heterosexual couples. And a government subsidy for each child conceived and carried to birth. Increase the subsidies for each year the couple remains married.
11.) Eliminate all foreign ownership of any American media entity. Two, break up overly large conglomerates, like News Corporation. Three, Stop Governmental incentive and financial support of any news, radio, or broadcasting agency.
12.) Limit the size of state and federal government. Demand a balanced budget, except in time of war that has been declared by congress. Hang anyone who suggests otherwise for treason.
13.) Institute Capital punishment for any individual, convicted of a felony three times. Immediately. Make a public spectacle of the event so that people know there is punishment for improper behavior.
End of Rant
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Old February 19th, 2011, 10:27 PM   #102
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i guess when i goto the Movies is high in demand. Not because alot of people don't goto the movies any more Just Because too many people are eating up all the Dam
It's not real popcorn, don't eat it, it's soylent green
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Old February 20th, 2011, 11:39 AM   #103
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no rockstar, lower demand does not equal higher prices.

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I'm not getting into this agian. I've gone round and round with Kickstand and if you really want to get into it just re read the thread.



Here's what people "Just getting started" are dealing with. Thousands, if not millions, of skilled and/or qualified workers get laid off. People that have been working for 20 years in the same field. Those people, out of realization they have to pay bills, take the entry level jobs in the fields they where in, some just entry level jobs in any field they can get into. That leaves the fresh out of college students SOL because they can't possibly compete with someone with 20 years of experience.



you have no idea how wrong you are.

I LIVE this every single day.

1. Entry level SKILLED talent is in high demand.
2. QUALIFIED people can find jobs all day long, high paying ones.
3. You have no clue.
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Old February 20th, 2011, 11:53 AM   #104
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no rockstar, lower demand does not equal higher prices.

you have no idea how wrong you are.

I LIVE this every single day.

1. Entry level SKILLED talent is in high demand.
2. QUALIFIED people can find jobs all day long, high paying ones.
3. You have no clue.
Wow, I must be experiencing wrong then. Because that's what my friends are all dealing with.
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Old February 20th, 2011, 11:56 AM   #105
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Wow, I must be experiencing wrong then. Because that's what my friends are all dealing with.
yeah, your three friends totally trumps the 82 job orders that are on my desk.

I'll ask the 3 other recruiters at the office for you on monday.

Your friends probably can't find jobs because they got degrees in the wrong areas and are trying to find jobs in fields that wont be around much longer.

Did they jump on the xray tech bandwagon two years ago? Medical billers? Tool and die shops? I'm curious
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yeah, your three friends totally trumps the 82 job orders that are on my desk.

I'll ask the 3 other recruiters at the office for you on monday.

Your friends probably can't find jobs because they got degrees in the wrong areas and are trying to find jobs in fields that wont be around much longer.

Did they jump on the xray tech bandwagon two years ago? Medical billers? Tool and die shops? I'm curious
A couple of them were xray techs, two or three are teachers. What is your job anyways? It sounds like you are some kind of human resource guy. The reason most people jump on the band wagon is because they are told that is a good field to go into . Most of the time from people that do alot of hiring. They worked to get those certifications to better them sleves, much like you did, but the job market is now screwed for those jobs. Should they hop on the next bandwagon? Or just go with what they know they're good at?
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What is your job anyways?
Kickstands a pimp.
I'm one of his ho's
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Old February 20th, 2011, 02:36 PM   #108
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It took me over a year to find a decent Quality manager. I've been looking for an experienced centerless grinder hand for over a year. We can't find a high end turning center hand.

The problem I see is every fresh graduate is they think the piece of paper they have framed makes them worth a bunch of money and they have a cocky attitude. My response; lose the attitude and drop your expectations.
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Old February 20th, 2011, 02:50 PM   #109
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Douglas Voorheis Manifesto Rev. 1
1.) Develop domestic forms of fuel, establish a reinvestment of the tax dollars gleaned from the revenue and reinvest it into renewable forms of energy. Stop sending trillions of dollars over seas to purchase oil from countries that support terrorism. Set a 10 year plan into action to wean the US from importing fuel from Communist or terrorist supporting nations.
2.) 20 percent tariffs on all China made goods immediately; rising by 5 percent each year for each year China refuses to revalue their currency. Make it illegal to import goods of any form of Socialist, communist, dictatorship nation. Any time you go to the store and buy shit stamped made in china, you are supporting our enemy.
3.) Defend our borders. Arizona is doing what the US government is not willing to do. Finish the fence between the US and Mexico. Kill any illegalís invading our country; send their corpse home with a trebuchet.
4.) Make the prison system as close to self sustaining a possible. We have a safety net society that has created a segment of the population into dependants of the state. Most of the individuals within the prison system are not being trained or rehabilitated to be self sufficient individuals if and when they are released after serving their debt to society. There is clearly a need for farm laborers. The prisoners should be dependent on raising their own food, and maintaining a group of animals as needed to feed themselves. Train the incarcerated to replace the illegal aliens by making them dependant on their ability to raise their own food geographically to match the prison location. Texas should train prisoners to maintain ranches, Floridians to pick oranges and strawberries, Michigan to pick apples. Non compliance or lack of success would require rationing of food and prosperity in the prison, just as it is in free society.
I am gainfully employed and continue to grow a garden every year. Why should the prisoners get three meals a day and not do a damn thing to support themselves. Train them to support themselves in free society, stop making them into life time dependence.
Horticulture, Milking, Ranching, Fruit Gathering, Meet preparation, Packaging, Row Cropping, any where there is a presents of illegal aliens train the prisoners to replace them.
Offer early release for success and good behavior. Subsidies to the farms that hire the released prisoners. Use the farms that use the released prisoners for training grounds for the incarcerated. Repeat and return offenders should be punished. Three time felony offenders should suffer capital punishment.
5.) Decriminalize marijuana. Make any other drug offense that is violent, involves weapons, minors, or previous drug offenders a felony. Three convictions for three felonies gets you executed.
6.) Eliminate all public assistance for able-bodied recipients. Cut off all public assistance for failure to show up to a work program on a timely basis.
7.) Change unemployment to be a self funded program in which a percentage of your hourly wage is invested into a fund that has a guaranteed interest rate of 1-1/2% over the rate of inflation that will be paid back by a monthly draw over a two year period or at time of disability or retirement. When the monies in the account are used up, your no longer receive payment.
8.) All out war on any group or nation that attacks the US. Destroy Pakistan if necessary; get out of Afghanistan. Those people cannot be taught differently it is in their heritage, let them dominate each other.
9.) Make abortions illegal, except when the physical survival of the mother is threatened, to be determined by three medical doctors. Require Norplant for all women on welfare of childbearing age.
10.) Encourage child bearing among taxpaying citizens. Create a marriage incentive, through lower taxes for married heterosexual couples. And a government subsidy for each child conceived and carried to birth. Increase the subsidies for each year the couple remains married.
11.) Eliminate all foreign ownership of any American media entity. Two, break up overly large conglomerates, like News Corporation. Three, Stop Governmental incentive and financial support of any news, radio, or broadcasting agency.
12.) Limit the size of state and federal government. Demand a balanced budget, except in time of war that has been declared by congress. Hang anyone who suggests otherwise for treason.
13.) Institute Capital punishment for any individual, convicted of a felony three times. Immediately. Make a public spectacle of the event so that people know there is punishment for improper behavior.
End of Rant
I kinga like your rant. For the most part it is what this country needs but too many people that would say its not fair (boo hoo).
We do need to take care of ourselves first and fix us as a country and the people that reside here. Too many people are waiting for what they can get and expect it to be handed to them on a silver platter.
Great rant
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A couple of them were xray techs, two or three are teachers. What is your job anyways? It sounds like you are some kind of human resource guy. The reason most people jump on the band wagon is because they are told that is a good field to go into . Most of the time from people that do alot of hiring. They worked to get those certifications to better them sleves, much like you did, but the job market is now screwed for those jobs. Should they hop on the next bandwagon? Or just go with what they know they're good at?
x ray tech, flooded market. Teacher, loss of populations, loss of demand for teachers, so basically they are unqualified for the jobs that are currently available.

Teaching is one of the worst fields to try and get a job in over the last few years, and you could see it coming miles away.

I am a technical recruiter, I recruit mainly engineering. Our office services IT, Finance and Accounting, general staffing is done out of our other office locally, and we stay out of the healthcare industry due to liability.

There are tons of jobs available, every customer I have is "shorthanded"

That's not to say that I don't think some of our customers aren't willing to pay what they should, or their expectations of candidates are realistic, etc.

People are currently very hard to find with the qualifications that managers NEED. Not want. Times have changed.
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Kickstands a pimp.
I'm one of his ho's
one of my very best ho's!!

I hope all is still going well.
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Old February 20th, 2011, 07:31 PM   #112
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Old February 21st, 2011, 10:29 PM   #113
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x ray tech, flooded market. Teacher, loss of populations, loss of demand for teachers, so basically they are unqualified for the jobs that are currently available.

Teaching is one of the worst fields to try and get a job in over the last few years, and you could see it coming miles away.

I am a technical recruiter, I recruit mainly engineering. Our office services IT, Finance and Accounting, general staffing is done out of our other office locally, and we stay out of the healthcare industry due to liability.

There are tons of jobs available, every customer I have is "shorthanded"

That's not to say that I don't think some of our customers aren't willing to pay what they should, or their expectations of candidates are realistic, etc.

People are currently very hard to find with the qualifications that managers NEED. Not want. Times have changed.
OK, Obviously it's your area of Expertise. I still think there a FEW exceptions to "Useless and lazy" that end up dropping EBT or other aid because they realize it's not something to abuse.
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I wouldn't call him an expert. He's only been doing this for about 4 months. Prior to that he was driving a septic truck.
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That is the proof the economy in going down. His good ho's left.
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OK, Obviously it's your area of Expertise. I still think there a FEW exceptions to "Useless and lazy" that end up dropping EBT or other aid because they realize it's not something to abuse.
exceptions do not make rules.

Stereotypes and prejudices exist for a reason, if you argue that you have never stereotyped or been prejudiced (you have towards me in this thread alone) then you are lying through your teeth.

There is MORE abuse, than PROPER use.
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exceptions do not make rules.

Stereotypes and prejudices exist for a reason, if you argue that you have never stereotyped or been prejudiced (you have towards me in this thread alone) then you are lying through your teeth.

There is MORE abuse, than PROPER use.
True. I stereotype all the time, I'm human. We all do. But we also can admit that there are a few of those people that don't fit the bill. Also, another human trait.

I totally agree that a majority of the people on EBT and aid abuse it. I also think that in order to get aid you should be forced to have a budget and meet with a finical planner (or what ever) and have a plan to get off that aid. If you don't stick with the plan, You lose your aid. I think it would help get rid of the leeches and make it still available for people that us it correctly.
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now your making some sense....
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Agree 100% with that fruitcake... Drill baby drill.
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