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Old February 14th, 2011, 08:39 AM   #1
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ATLANTA – A death row inmate's federal lawsuit claims Georgia's stockpile of a key lethal injection drug has expired, and he's asking a judge to halt an execution he says may cause him to die in excruciating pain.

The lawsuit filed Friday on behalf of Roy Willard Blankenship raises new questions about Georgia's supply of sodium thiopental, a sedative that has been in short supply even before the drug's sole U.S. manufacturer decided last month to stop producing it.

"No matter where Georgia obtained its supply of the drug, the drug is almost certainly expired and no longer effective," said the lawsuit, which was filed in U.S. District Court by the Atlanta-based Southern Center for Human Rights.

The shortage has delayed executions in several states, and an Associated Press review found that at least five states — Arizona, Arkansas, California, Georgia and Tennessee — had to turn to England for their supply of the drug. Nebraska, meanwhile, secured a stockpile from an Indian firm.

Georgia corrections officials did not respond to a request for comment. But state attorneys have said the drug expires in February 2014, and that the same batch of drugs was used without problems for earlier executions in Georgia and Arizona.

Blankenship was set to be executed last Wednesday for the 1978 murder of an elderly woman, but the state pardons board postponed it earlier this month to give authorities more time to conduct DNA testing on the victim's remains. The lawsuit urged the judge to call off the execution until the state releases more details of the state's supply of the drug.

Sodium thiopental is a barbiturate used by most states as part of a three-drug cocktail. It puts inmates to sleep before officials administer pancuronium bromide, which paralyzes the muscles, and potassium chloride, which stops the heart. The lawsuit contends that the expired drug may not fully put Blankenship to sleep — which could make his death extremely painful as the other drugs take effect.

The lawsuit, citing state documents, claims the sodium thiopental is stored in vials labeled "Link Pharmaceuticals," a firm purchased five years ago by Archimedes Pharma Limited, another British company.

Link Pharmaceuticals didn't exist in 2010, and its name hasn't been on labels since May 2007, the lawsuit said. Sodium thiopental typically has a shelf life of four years, meaning even the state's newest supply would expire in May of this year, according to the lawsuit.

Archimedes did not immediately respond to a request for comment. But it has said the firm does not export the drug to the U.S. and that it doesn't keep information on the purchasers and users of its products.

Blankenship's lawsuit also includes an affidavit from Randall Tackett, a University of Georgia pharmacy professor, who said using an expired batch of the drug could have grave consequences.

"There is an extremely high risk that the use of expired sodium thiopental would cause the individual being executed to experience excruciating pain due to inadequate sedation," he said.

They should NOT get this drug in the first place. If you are such a fvcked up person you are being put down like a pitbull I think you should be forced to suffer. Your victims most likely did. Why shouldnt the convict suffer?

I would love to see us go back to more brutal means. Guillotine, Hanging, The Spanish Tickler, and a personal favorie The Brazen Bull.

Maybe a little fear of these methods would make these animals think twice before murdering or raping.
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Old February 14th, 2011, 08:52 AM   #2
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whats even dumber then a sedative is the fact the administering person actually swaps the persons arm with alcohol. and u can see their point wouldn't want some guy to go to hell and be sick. would spoil the whole fun of the execution.
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Old February 14th, 2011, 01:23 PM   #7
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Sounds like someone watched Law Abiding Citizen one too many times.
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Was watching something on tv yesterday and when issue the death penalty in India , they use a Elephant to stomp on you till you die
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Was watching something on tv yesterday and when issue the death penalty in India , they use a Elephant to stomp on you till you die
Sounds a lot cheaper. We should do this.

Of course, a big tall tree and a short piece of rope aren't too expensive either.
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Old February 14th, 2011, 04:13 PM   #10
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They should die the same way their victims did, or as closely replicated as possible anyway
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They should use him as the tow rope for a duramax vs duramax tug-o-war.
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Sounds a lot cheaper. We should do this.

Of course, a big tall tree and a short piece of rope aren't too expensive either.
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Yeah, sounds like a great idea.....


I'm all for capital punishment, but we are already taking someones life, it should be done quickly, and as painless as possible. You know that whole no cruel and unusual punishment thing....
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They should die the same way their victims did, or as closely replicated as possible anyway
eye for an eye
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Yeah, sounds like a great idea.....


I'm all for capital punishment, but we are already taking someones life, it should be done quickly, and as painless as possible. You know that whole no cruel and unusual punishment thing....
Smartest thing said so far.

Eye for an Eye is kind of childish. IMO. It goes on the idea that life is fair. Life isn't fair. If we're so much better then said inmate, we should do what he couldn't and act like humans. Life isn't fair and sometimes being the better man means you treat someone like this better then he treated people.
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it should be done quickly, and as painless as possible. You know that whole no cruel and unusual punishment thing....
Why? Their victims did not get the benefit of the no cruel and unusal death/rape/torture/etc...

I say the more cruel/painful the punishment the better.
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Life isn't fair and sometimes being the better man means you treat someone like this better then he treated people.
I never claimed to be better than anyone. Bring on the stomping elephants and Immurement.
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I never claimed to be better than anyone. Bring on the stomping elephants and Immurement.
Not with your actual words. But it seems like most of you guys would probably think you're better then a person who deserves a death sentence.

If you feel like they should die a horrible painful death then are you really any different then they are except you haven't actually done it to them?
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Versed and succinylcholine...... Then push the K. I don't know what is so god damn hard about this

Shit, you could even take the cheap route and do a Diprovan bolus then a two hour drip at 50 mg/kg/hr just to be sure. You could even open it up and run it at 100 mg/kg/hr and really watch that BP drop.

Thats government red tape making things harder than they really are.......

With the above solutions, the patient wouldn't feel a thing either.

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Not with your actual words. But it seems like most of you guys would probably think you're better then a person who deserves a death sentence.
I am only better than them in that I know not to do the things to others that they obviously didnt know.

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If you feel like they should die a horrible painful death then are you really any different then they are except you haven't actually done it to them?
I am OK with the thought that I am no different than them as long as they suffer for what they did. I can tell you if anyone ever harms my family in the manner that would land them on death row we will see how similar we really are. They wont have to worry about an ineffective drug on death row.
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Versed and succinylcholine...... Then push the K. I don't know what is so god damn hard about this

Shit, you could even take the cheap route and do a Diprovan bolus then a two hour drip at 50 mg/kg/hr just to be sure. You could even open it up and run it at 100 mg/kg/hr and really watch that BP drop.

Thats government red tape making things harder than they really are.......

With the above solutions, the patient wouldn't feel a thing either.
With a shotgun to the back of the head they wont feel a thing either.
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