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Old March 22nd, 2012, 06:50 PM   #61
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Thanks. Looking forward to seeing how this works, I don't see too many with a triangulated front.
Precisely why we wanted to do it. I can't tell you how many people asked..."But don't they make lift kits for those". Yes...yes they do...but you don't see a triangulated fronts often and I haven't had much luck finding an XJ with one. The fun was in the challenge of making it work with the drive shaft and 4.0L both conveniently placed in our way!.

Plus you can't go wrong when you get to do the design and drive it and someone else pays the bills (@Toptruk)!
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Seems to me there would be more room using the triangulated uppers than a typical 3/4 link set-up. Packaging the 5.3L/4L60e in my XJ was hard enough, I have been looking at link set-ups for a year and a half trying to figure out how I am going to add that. I will be watching this closely.
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Old March 22nd, 2012, 07:59 PM   #63
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Precisely why we wanted to do it. I can't tell you how many people asked..."But don't they make lift kits for those". Yes...yes they do...but you don't see a triangulated fronts often and I haven't had much luck finding an XJ with one. The fun was in the challenge of making it work with the drive shaft and 4.0L both conveniently placed in our way!.

Plus you can't go wrong when you get to do the design and drive it and someone else pays the bills (@Toptruk)!
Be careful with the design work! For link placement that followed the 4 link calculator, yes, but a lot has changed since it looked good on the tube! What about the monster truck style side plates and the removeable belly that house the lower link mounts? I just need to gain knowledge to be dangerous with Catia and the whole world will be in trouble..... not, that takes to long... Just start fabing! lol

Joint effort always has its rewards..... In some case... Driving (your lucky there isnt a smiley face rolling over)!
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Seems to me there would be more room using the triangulated uppers than a typical 3/4 link set-up. Packaging the 5.3L/4L60e in my XJ was hard enough, I have been looking at link set-ups for a year and a half trying to figure out how I am going to add that. I will be watching this closely.
Depends on how close you want to get to the oil pan and whether you put the triangulation on the top links or the bottoms. I ran several different variations in CAD before I finally settled on the current design which required moving the uppers out wider than the pan width and outboard of the frame rails on the body side. I think in full rebound they come close to the oil pan when centered but I wasn't willing to put an upper link thru the oil pan on the first ride.

Are you thinking about triangulated 4-links for yours? Is the issue the track bar interference with the 5.3L? Let me know...we may be able to try some things out in CAD before you take it under the knife.
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Be careful with the design work! For link placement that followed the 4 link calculator, yes, but a lot has changed since it looked good on the tube! What about the monster truck style side plates and the removeable belly that house the lower link mounts? I just need to gain knowledge to be dangerous with Catia and the whole world will be in trouble..... not, that takes to long... Just start fabing! lol

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Those changes were only because you don't know how to fabricate!
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Are you thinking about triangulated 4-links for yours? Is the issue the track bar interference with the 5.3L? Let me know...we may be able to try some things out in CAD before you take it under the knife.
I have been since I saw yours

The track bar is fine, I pushed the axle forward 2" and it clears good. Normally a 3 link works good on an XJ. D-shaft and exhaust run on the driver's side so you put the upper on the right - EZ. I have exhaust on both sides, plus a D-shaft on the driver's side. It becomes just more complicated with the 5.3.
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Those changes were only because you don't know how to fabricate!
I think it turned out pretty descent..... Tube frame buggy will be even better! I still blame it on Catia vs real world (hiding denial). I do have to say most of it was pretty damn close!

So where are the air shocks and mounts in CAD? What on earth would we ever do without those mocked up? Looks like I will need to finish off what you had left off.. j/k. We may have some time to throw those in while we wait on delivery....
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More progress made....

Front axle tabs are all welded, cut tubing to length.....







Cycled through motion of front axle. Driver side needs to drop down another 5.5" per design.....



Placed a 44 on to see how the clearance was to fender..... No Bueno.. Going to be clearancing out the fenders in a couple weeks.


I also would like to pick up beadlock wheels without as much offset... This will cover the passengers in mud/rock...


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Old March 25th, 2012, 08:37 PM   #69
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Axle truss is fully welded and started adding reinforcement to it...








Going to add bent tubes from the truss to the outer tubes of the axle for more support/looks after I protect for the air shock mounting.
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Old March 25th, 2012, 09:42 PM   #70
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lookin good!
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Since last posting, made a little more progress...... Delvin even turned a wrench and the plasma cutter last weekend...

Traded 71 Highboy my 38.5x11 Boggers for the 39.5x13.5 Irok's that this project will be running (Thanks again!).....

Fenders cut, winch mount started.... Going to have bent tubes going from loop to A-Pillar and from plate to underbody to increase structural integrity.

Front 60 re-geared to 5.38's and welded. 14 Bolt "Orb of Traction" welded for ther rear.

Still waiting for the damn air shocks.....





Cool one of the Plasma in action..


14 Bolt 5.38's to be installed this week.
Hope to get air shocks this week and mount those on weekend..
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What are you going to do under the winch?
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Bent tubing from hoop to frame rail (following under rail) leading into the stiffeners right after a pillar.... Going to be some complicated bending, but definetely feasible... This will bring the whole front end together with the cage. I will hope to have pics after the weekend (going to need some help holding the tubing while its bent)....
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Looking forward to seeing how it goes.
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Old April 16th, 2012, 09:42 PM   #75
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starting to look sweet. nice job
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Old April 20th, 2012, 08:40 PM   #76
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Those irocs look good on there thats a sweet project you got goin.first bogg tomorrow prolly runnin the 44s got a place in mind for the boggers. thanks again cant waitto see it done
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Made some more progress, but not as much as I would have liked (as per usual)....

A large portion of last weekend involved swapping lift kits on a buddies trucks. Then I had yet another lift kit to install on another F150.


On to the good stuff:
14 bolt shaved. I wanted to keep the lower hole as I have heard of others leaking once this has been cut off.



Bent tubing for the front stinger and winch mount. Havent bent the lower tubing yet as I had to do the lift kits the day I had help for that..


She's sitting under her own weight now (on blocks) as the damn air shocks STILL havent shipped........


Looking at SYE kits now with rear driveshafts. Tom Woods has a pretty good deal with the super-duty 231 SYE kit.....
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Old April 30th, 2012, 09:40 PM   #79
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Badass Build!
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looks dam good cant wait to see it out on the trails.
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