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Old August 30th, 2006, 04:22 PM   #1
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I am looking for any information on fixing a rolled wagoneer. The ideal plan is to choip the top off and add a plexiglass or lexan windshield.. first off are either of these a good material to use for this or can someone sugest something better. Second is to add a roll cage for the new roof and sew a custum canvas for the cover. I am looking for anyone who might know more about this and could give estimate prices on anything needed for this.
Hope you can help. I need it big time.
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Old August 30th, 2006, 04:54 PM   #2
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First off what is it?

A fullsize Wagoneer, XJ Wagoneer, or ZJ Wagoneer?

The last two are unibody, and won't like being rolled or having their roofs cut off. (I have done it before, making a Cheromanche with a friend, but collasped A pillers will make your job harder)





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I agree. Need to know type of Waggy. FSJ shouldn't be too much of a problem. I personally would not get on the road with anything other than automotive glass. one misplaced stone and well you know.
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I believe it is an FSJ it is a 1980.. yeah I know an oldie.. but hey it is not actually mine.. it is my fiance's baby.. This fix job is going to be a present for my fiance on our wedding day.. we are going to walk out of the church and there it will be as our get away vehicle. When you give information just talk as if I don't know anything about vehicles.. well cuz I really don't I only know what he has said or at least what I caught of that.
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There is a gent on here that is selling many parts for a waggy right now. You should get a new winshield frame personally. I would shave the window frames right off the door and as you said chop the top off. Do a wood bed and box or rhino line it. Go from back seats forward with a canvas top. Lucky for you its a FSJ because you have a full solid straight frame hopefully.
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Can you get pictures of what it looks like now? I need to know how bad it is, roofwise- I have a few ideas....
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Ya pics would def help.

Cooter, how do the military jtruck window frames mount? I am wondering if they could convert it to a flat window and custom make frame work for the top.
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Ya pics would def help.

Cooter, how do the military jtruck window frames mount? I am wondering if they could convert it to a flat window and custom make frame work for the top.
That's esactly what I was thinking- Get an M715 windshield frame. The doors are interchangeable, except for the looks on the civvy versions. (I think the frames on the doors unbolt, IIRC) You would need to weld in a filler panel with hinge mounting points for the winshield, however.
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I will try to get a pic ... It might be hard.. I have to do it incognito.. I will do my best though
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m715 windshield, with a full cage and canvas top, like the ones for scouts would be sweet. then cut the window frames off of the doors, remove the windows from the doors. cut a couple pieces of .5" o.d./.375" id pipe about 1.5 inches long. weld them in the slot where the windows used to be. build window frame work out of .375" round stock. make the bottom piece like this: ;--_______--; the ; parts would slide into the pieces of pipe. then go forward to the windshield frame, up the frame, back to the rear of the door, and back down to the bottom piece. then make canvas covers, with windows. have an extra flap with snaps that snaps on about one inch outside the window slot. repeat for the other 3 doors, and the gate window. then you would have two piece doors, allowing it to look right with the top down, and have half doors.

one question though. is it a two door, or 4 door?
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Waggies are all 4 door.

The window frames unbolt, so there is no need to cut, but you will need to support the body sides once you cut the roof off- I would weld the rear doors shut because it will be really difficult to support the "B" pillars.
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I have actually done this........

We got a new windshield frame and replaced the damaged one welding in extra steel support.
Sawzalled the top off, right below the rear window lines, and removed all the window hardware from the liftgate.

Using 1.5" Steel Tube we built up a cage, basically very "YJ Family cage esk" but on a bigger scale.
Front hoop to help support the windshield, hoop behind the front seats, another behind the back seats and then tapered down to the floor.
Added in bracing and supports and tied it all into the frame with bushings.

turned out really well.
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Waggies are all 4 door.

The window frames unbolt, so there is no need to cut, but you will need to support the body sides once you cut the roof off- I would weld the rear doors shut because it will be really difficult to support the "B" pillars.
I think your wrong. Early waggys came both 2 & 4 door yet weren't refered to as cherokees yet.

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