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Old May 6th, 2010, 08:25 PM   #1
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97 dodge ram 4x4

looking to go a better axel swap. need something that is better just getting ready for trails in the dodge need something that will hold up to the abuse. help me please.
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Old May 7th, 2010, 04:42 PM   #2
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what do you have? 1/2 ton, 3/4 ton 1 ton? what are you going to do to the truck?? need more info.

the axles between trucks are pretty much a bolt swap job. not sure about the drive shafts, never seen if they fit or not. but the suspension is the same. I know on a 94 there was 2 different widths of leaf springs. so might watch out for that. Not sure if the 97's had that set up also.
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Old May 8th, 2010, 12:17 AM   #3
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i just really want something stronger its a 1500 and i haul my 25ft gooseneck with it. the truck has no issue but the ass squats so damn bad and i am afarid on the farm i am going to break the axels.
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Old May 8th, 2010, 12:17 AM   #4
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i just really want something stronger its a 1500 and i haul my 25ft gooseneck with it. the truck has no issue but the ass squats so damn bad and i am afarid on the farm i am going to break the axels.
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Old May 21st, 2010, 10:29 AM   #5
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there was a guy on that had a dodge 60 front for that thing for like $300. aside from what most say, the dodge 60 is pretty tough.
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Old May 21st, 2010, 10:45 AM   #6
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but a set of 1 ton axles from a 3500 and swap them in. heres a front 60 for sale. http://www.greatlakes4x4.com/showthr...=172932&page=2 and heres a rear to go with it.
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Old May 24th, 2010, 11:04 AM   #7
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a set of Dana 60's pretty much will bolt right in. i grabbed a set for $300. shop around people are giving em away these days. remember you will need new rims at least and the drives shaft in the reasr will need to be shortend and you will need conversion u joints
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Old May 24th, 2010, 11:07 AM   #8
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swapping in a 6 isn't going to reduce the sag from the weight... hes going to need springs for that... then its going to be easy to over load and BAM bent frame... you need a bigger truck if you dont feel comfortable hauling the trailer with what you have.
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Old May 24th, 2010, 10:09 PM   #9
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i really doubt that the frame would bend from using 3/4ton springs, if that frame bends theres bigger issues to worry about.

id upgrade to 3/4ton springs and axles if your happy with the truck as it is. there cheap and work great. id put helper bags on your stock rear springs that way you still have a decent unladed ride. as for the front, just throw in a set of diesel coils and theres lift and no sag. (i have diesel coils if your intrested)


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Old May 24th, 2010, 10:14 PM   #10
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haha, yes, springs are going to bend the frame! woo! your going to bend a 1/2 ton frame buy acting like its a 3/4 ton... trust me, I know a guy that did this.
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Old May 24th, 2010, 10:58 PM   #11
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idk about dodges but i know the older f series fords the 1/2 ton used c channel frames an the 3/4 ton and 1 ton used boxed frames.

id say use a airbag load leveling setup. but a 25ft gooseneck seems liek a pretty big trailer for a 1/2 ton.
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Old May 25th, 2010, 08:33 PM   #12
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i have already used the gooseneck but some of the loads really bottom out the springs bu ti think your right when you say i need a bigger truck.
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Old January 4th, 2011, 06:11 PM   #13
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that 1500 should have the corp 8.75 that is supposed to be as strong as the 60 I wouldn't worry about that.
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Old January 5th, 2011, 09:39 PM   #14
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throw some 60s like everyone said and some 2500 or 3500 springs. the SPRINGS will not bend the frame but maybe treating it like something other then a 1500 will. as for the widths i believe the only difference is the 2500 and 3500 axles have 3 inch spring perches and the 1500 only has 2.5 but not for sure. heard that once.
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Old January 6th, 2011, 06:25 AM   #15
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that 1500 should have the corp 8.75 that is supposed to be as strong as the 60 I wouldn't worry about that.
not even close. the 8 3/4 was last used in 79ish and NEVER EVER in the 2nd gen trucks. please get your facts right befor posting in the tech section. the axles in a 2nd gen 1500 are front dana 44 and rear chrysler 9.25. the 9.25 has been in the ram line since the mid 70s. again do your research befor posting.


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throw some 60s like everyone said and some 2500 or 3500 springs. the SPRINGS will not bend the frame but maybe treating it like something other then a 1500 will. as for the widths i believe the only difference is the 2500 and 3500 axles have 3 inch spring perches and the 1500 only has 2.5 but not for sure. heard that once.
yes 2nd gen 3/4 and 1tons have a 3" wide spring
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Old January 6th, 2011, 10:48 PM   #16
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Didnt some of the 3/4 tons come with 2.5" springs. I though I have ran in to them before. I could be wrong though. I do know when I have bought springs for the 1/2 ton there was the option for the 3" wide ones.

i wouldnt be worried about the rear axle. They have thoes in 3/4 ton trucks behind the deisle.

I might have 3/4 springs laying around.. Ill have to dig though my parts truck if your intrested. but I agree with the guys, you just need a bigger truck.
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Old January 9th, 2011, 07:20 PM   #17
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Didnt some of the 3/4 tons come with 2.5" springs. I though I have ran in to them before. I could be wrong though. I do know when I have bought springs for the 1/2 ton there was the option for the 3" wide ones.
I *believe* that the difference is in the light duty 3/4 ton vs heavy duty. When thay had a light duty 3/4 ton is was with the 9.25 and a 44. The light duty 3/4 ton was only an option at the start of the 2nd gens, up to 97 I think, but it could be a year or to later, or a year earlier.

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i wouldnt be worried about the rear axle. They have thoes in 3/4 ton trucks behind the deisle.
No, the V10 or diesel had a 70 or 80 rear. The difference was the autos had a 70, and the stick/dually had the 80.


I would just go out and look for a 3/4 2nd gen, then you would have nothing to worry about. I see about 10 mpg in my v10 and that is loaded or unloaded. The only thing I wish is that I had the stick vs. the auto. In the 2nd gens you could not get a 1 ton in a non-dually, so that is why you see so many 3/4 rolling around.
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Old January 29th, 2011, 07:39 PM   #18
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not even close. the 8 3/4 were in the befor the 80s and NEVER EVER in the 2nd gen trucks. please get your facts right befor posting in the tech section. the axles in a 2nd gen 1500 are front dana 44 and rear chrysler 9.25. the 9.25 has been in the ram line since the mid 70s. again do your research befor posting.




yes 2nd gen 3/4 and 1tons have a 3" wide spring
got my numbers mixed up my bad.... the rest of my statement still stands...
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Old January 30th, 2011, 01:09 PM   #19
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got my numbers mixed up my bad.... the rest of my statement still stands...
so you belive a 9.25 is as strong as a 60? where did you do you get your info from?
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Old January 30th, 2011, 05:09 PM   #20
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that 1500 should have the corp 8.75 that is supposed to be as strong as the 60 I wouldn't worry about that.
Good job bringing up a old thread
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