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Old January 14th, 2011, 05:06 AM   #1
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Default 02 explorer sport wont come out of 4x4

it wont disengage the front axel. also the 4x4 indacator light doesn't work anymore. under her hood is a cobbeled mess. i was thinking a vacume line or fuse but she doesn't have her book.
is this a common problem? fixxes?

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Old January 14th, 2011, 07:46 AM   #2
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4x4 actuator motor or a slight chance of a fuse
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Old January 14th, 2011, 08:50 AM   #3
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4x4 actuator motor or a slight chance of a fuse
anychance you know the fuse #
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Old January 14th, 2011, 09:38 AM   #4
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Rangers were live axles by that time. I dont know if exlplorers are the same.

I have a working Ranger actuator from my 02 if your interested and they are the same.

If it got in 4lo sometimes you just have to drive them until they come out. Back and forth Or at least that's what i would do.
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Old January 14th, 2011, 10:05 AM   #5
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Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. I had this problem with an 02 Explorer. If the 4x4 lights don't work, It indicates the 4x4 computer. Seems Ford used some junky modules from 2000-2005 that cannot handle voltage spikes. I found this out because my dad changed the battery and suddenly the 4x4 dont work anymore! Easiest way is to getr the electrical print from Ford. Make sure you know the month of manufacture! If you do not have 12 volts down to the shift motor with the key on, then 99% chance of 4x4 computer. If you do then take the shift motor off, mark the case for alignment and take it apart and clean it. then get rust built up around the stator. If you need a computer, go to silver state ford website. they are half the price of autozone and are a ford dealership!
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Old January 14th, 2011, 10:12 AM   #6
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http://www.therangerstation.com/tech...shiftmotor.htm

Tech writeup on cleaning shift motor
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Old January 14th, 2011, 11:21 AM   #7
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Rangers were live axles by that time. I dont know if exlplorers are the same.

I have a working Ranger actuator from my 02 if your interested and they are the same.

If it got in 4lo sometimes you just have to drive them until they come out. Back and forth Or at least that's what i would do.
When was the ranger's front axle ever a Live axle?

Live_axle Live_axle

please try again.
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Old January 14th, 2011, 12:10 PM   #8
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When was the ranger's front axle ever a Live axle?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_axle

please try again.
Telling me to try again and your using wikipedia?

Someone please explain this to Mr. Billy big wheel over here. i'm not in the mood for kickstand today.
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Old January 14th, 2011, 12:13 PM   #9
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When was the ranger's front axle ever a Live axle?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_axle

please try again.
I have only ever heard of live axle being used to describe axles that don't have lockout hubs.
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I have only ever heard of live axle being used to describe axles that don't have lockout hubs.
ding ding ding. Constantly spinning= live wikipedia can lick mine.

how did kickstand get involved anyways, try again, what a jerk.

i realize you may be attempting to help, but the little shitty " you dont know what you are talking about" comments all the time is just annoying.

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Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. I had this problem with an 02 Explorer. If the 4x4 lights don't work, It indicates the 4x4 computer. Seems Ford used some junky modules from 2000-2005 that cannot handle voltage spikes. I found this out because my dad changed the battery and suddenly the 4x4 dont work anymore! Easiest way is to getr the electrical print from Ford. Make sure you know the month of manufacture! If you do not have 12 volts down to the shift motor with the key on, then 99% chance of 4x4 computer. If you do then take the shift motor off, mark the case for alignment and take it apart and clean it. then get rust built up around the stator. If you need a computer, go to silver state ford website. they are half the price of autozone and are a ford dealership!
great first post! & welcome.

what kind of dollars is she looking at? how long under this thing am i looking at?
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Old January 15th, 2011, 08:21 PM   #12
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did you get it figured out?
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Old January 16th, 2011, 06:15 AM   #13
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did you get it figured out?
not yet!! she was sapost to bring it over ,but hasn't.
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ding ding ding. Constantly spinning= live wikipedia can lick mine.

how did kickstand get involved anyways, try again, what a jerk.

i realize you may be attempting to help, but the little shitty " you dont know what you are talking about" comments all the time is just annoying.
are you retarded?

using "live axle" to call something a straight axle has been used for years.

if you want to get technical a live axle is a STRAIGHT axle, that has no differential and doesn't allow the wheels to spin at different speeds. But I'm gonna bet you knew that to right quiefinator?

I love arguing with stupid. It makes my day.
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using "live axle" to call something a straight axle has been used for years.
He's right. Ranger has never had a live front axle.

As for the OP.... can you give more info? Is the front driveshaft spinning? Are both hubs locked? Basically is it the hubs that are stuck in 4wd, or the tcase? Or both?
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FYI, Rangers went to live axle in 2000, Search any ranger forum and type in live axle and you will find out what i'm talking about.

http://therangerstation.com/forums/s...ight=live+axle

Kickstand, what did you attempt to add to this thread. I have quite a bit of knowledge on this subject and was attempting to help. Please read what i write before flying off the handle. The internet bullying is old, i don't mean to bother you. I'm just trying to function here. Please leave me alone
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FYI, Rangers went to live axle in 2000, Search any ranger forum and type in live axle and you will find out what i'm talking about.

http://therangerstation.com/forums/s...ight=live+axle

Kickstand, what did you attempt to add to this thread. I have quite a bit of knowledge on this subject and was attempting to help. Please read what i write before flying off the handle. The internet bullying is old, i don't mean to bother you. I'm just trying to function here. Please leave me alone
You're adding misinformation.

A live axle is a STRAIGHT AXLE that has NO DIFFERENTIAL and constantly spins ie, is under power. The term was then loosely used to describe straight front axles.

What you are describing is a Ranger that does not have any sort of disconnect and the front axle shafts are spinning because there is no sort of locking hub, either automatic or manual.

I am not attempting to add anything to this thread, I am correcting you (again) for using the wrong term to describe something.
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Its not misinformation its common knowledge amongst Ranger/ Explorer enthusiast's. as far as correcting people, there is a polite way to attempt to do it and there is Kickstands "your a fucking retard" even though i he doesnt even really know what is going on.


Here's a polite lesson, read up.
Once again, go to any ranger forum, search live axle and this is what you will find. In 2000 the ranger's went away from the junk pvh style hubs to a not lockout style hub. This made the front axle spin all the time, no manual lockouts, no vaccum shit. That means in this person's scenario, the issue is probably coming from the t case, because there are no locking parts in the front axle. I was adding USEFUL information to the thread (you should try it sometime KS)

I did not coin the phrase myself, everyone (people who understand rangers) calls this a "live axle". Whether this is perfect terminology i do not know, but it what it is refered to. Not just by me, by many many people. You may disagree if you would like, but thats what they call it.

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He's right. Ranger has never had a live front axle.

As for the OP.... can you give more info? Is the front driveshaft spinning? Are both hubs locked? Basically is it the hubs that are stuck in 4wd, or the tcase? Or both?

it felt like it was real bound up,(like 4lo) it would not move in idle with out pushing the gas.
then i went from park to first stoping at every gear. this seamed to free it up a bit so i drove it to her house for her (about 2 miles).

i pulled it into her yard and stomped the gas and the pass front and pass rear spun.

i took a quick look at the fuses but i didnt pull any because their not labeled on the pannel.

would it be an under the hood fuse or inside?
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also she said she NEVER used 4 lo.
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