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Old January 20th, 2011, 06:47 PM   #81
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If you're born with a dick you're a man and that's that. If you're born with a vagina you're a female. You make it sound like someone could mentally be a gorilla if they wanted to. That's not how it works from my understanding of things. If you have the hormones to be a male, everything else follows suit.

I don't believe you can mentally be one thing and be another thing physically. What determines mentally whether you are female or not? What hobbies you like? What you like to do?

These transgendered types even after surgery still have to pursue hormone therapy which means they aren't "mentally" one thing or another.

Have I answered your question enough or should I throw some more quotation marks in there?
What you have is a serverly mutilated man.
You can shave a dog, use a curling iron on its tail, paint him pink and alter his nose to look like a snout. You have dog that looks like a pig and might I add a real mad dog that probably is not your friend.
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Old January 20th, 2011, 06:49 PM   #82
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So, because you're ignorant of other possibilities, that's the way it is...?

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Enlighten yourself and learn a little about transgender kids, listen to Act II

http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radi...here-out-there
Name calling?Really
Don't push your gay stuff here either
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Old January 20th, 2011, 06:57 PM   #83
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Name calling?Really
Don't push your gay stuff here either
Ignorant : Lacking knowledge, information, or awareness about something in particular


He said, "That's not how it works from my understanding of things."
It's not name calling, it's a word used to describe not knowing about something, he didn't know of another possibility, therefore he was ignorant of it.
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Old January 20th, 2011, 06:59 PM   #84
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Oh and for the homophobes, if a transgender was in the shower with you there are good chances she would be also attracted to females and if you don't believe in transgender then really she is a woman.. so where does the whole "gay" worry come in?
Look at it like this, You are an attractive women and meet a good looking guy. Things seem great then you realize this guy is a gal. Bummer or disgust?
Its not right, a person is born male or female. Thats it. We do have genetic defects in the gene pool of humans and animals. Just my opinion
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Old January 20th, 2011, 07:02 PM   #85
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The nail has been hit on the head. There are also people that think they're gorillas, Atila the Hun, etc., just like there are males that think they're females. I'm not saying they don't have certain thoughts or feelings - who knows but them? Just because they say they have these feelings "naturally" doesn't mean they're not messed up. These poor people need help, just like the guy who thinks he's a gorilla.
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Old January 20th, 2011, 07:05 PM   #86
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if someone does not want help and you help them, you are forcing them. If a person is living a certain way and are happy and healthy doing it, who are you to say they need help? remember when they used to stick people who were different in institutions to help them?
And the blind guy walking towards a cliff... do you help him or just let him walk off the edge?
Get real, don't be such a liberal
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Old January 20th, 2011, 07:06 PM   #87
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Look at it like this, You are an attractive women and meet a good looking guy. Things seem great then you realize this guy is a gal. Bummer or disgust?
Its not right, a person is born male or female. Thats it. We do have genetic defects in the gene pool of humans and animals. Just my opinion
What is someone born with both sets of sex organs, then, Male or Female?

edit: and should they be able to serve in the military or get married?
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Old January 20th, 2011, 07:09 PM   #88
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What is someone born with both sets of sex organs, then, Male or Female?

edit: and should they be able to serve in the military or get married?
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Old January 20th, 2011, 07:17 PM   #89
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ok, what should they be allowed to do in terms of military service and marriage? Should they have any surgery to remove one or the other sex organs, which should it be?

edit: feel free to quote bible scriptures to support your answers.

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Old January 20th, 2011, 07:24 PM   #90
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ok, what should they be allowed to do in terms of military service and marriage? Should they have any surgery to remove one or the other sex organs, which should it be?
Join the circus
Enroll in a lab for testing to better understand the confused individual
I don't know Mike what do you think?
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Old January 20th, 2011, 07:27 PM   #91
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I don't know Mike what do you think?
I think that person should be whatever they think they are. They might not be as "confused" as you think they are.
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I'm telling you, some of the most violent and horrific homicide scenes I've ever seen were committed by homo-sexuals toward other homo-sexuals. When they need to they fight like Lions. Let 'em fight.

Question: What was wrong with the Don't ask, don't tell policy? Why does it HAVE to change? Why are "progressive" thinkers ALWAYS trying to push the envelope? They get an inch and they WANT a mile. Why?
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Old January 20th, 2011, 07:46 PM   #93
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It's hard to understand because transgender people exist and gay people exist. I just don't understand why you don't believe what they are. What do you think they are, just messing with people, trying to get them to believe some big hoax? I might not be pushing it so much if it was Aber, because he has his big book of "that's a sin", but I don't think that's what you use to justify your beliefs, so I'm just trying to see where it's coming from.
Are Wiggers actually Black people born white? No, stop laughing. It's a serious question based on your opinion.
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Old January 20th, 2011, 08:14 PM   #94
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I'm telling you, some of the most violent and horrific homicide scenes I've ever seen were committed by homo-sexuals toward other homo-sexuals. When they need to they fight like Lions. Let 'em fight.

Question: What was wrong with the Don't ask, don't tell policy? Why does it HAVE to change? Why are "progressive" thinkers ALWAYS trying to push the envelope? They get an inch and they WANT a mile. Why?
I guess they just want to push thier aganda down our throats. Its what they want and not what the majoity wants. IMO
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Old January 20th, 2011, 08:52 PM   #95
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I don't care who someone loves, who they have sex with, or if they want to dress up like they are the other gender. But I have to question the ethics of doctors that perform these operations to change what gender someone looks like. It seems questionable to me.

As for the military, if it gets in the way of doing what the military is supposed to do or costs the taxpayers extra money then it shouldn't be allowed. If not then it's OK.
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Old January 20th, 2011, 09:11 PM   #96
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I don't care who someone loves, who they have sex with, or if they want to dress up like they are the other gender. But I have to question the ethics of doctors that perform these operations to change what gender someone looks like. It seems questionable to me.

As for the military, if it gets in the way of doing what the military is supposed to do or costs the taxpayers extra money then it shouldn't be allowed. If not then it's OK.
I actually agree with you. On all fronts.

I looked at this thread and thought "Should I?" The answer is 'eh'. I just liked the thought about the doctors.
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Old January 20th, 2011, 09:12 PM   #97
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Question: What was wrong with the Don't ask, don't tell policy? Why does it HAVE to change? Why are "progressive" thinkers ALWAYS trying to push the envelope? They get an inch and they WANT a mile. Why?
Agreed. They are there to fight not for a gay pride parade. I would assume that they same standard applied to hetrosexuals. Dont ask dont tell.
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Old January 20th, 2011, 09:27 PM   #98
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Trannys are an inportant part of our military. Without them, none of the vehicles would move.
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Old January 20th, 2011, 09:34 PM   #99
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Trannys are an inportant part of our military. Without them, none of the vehicles would move.
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Ok then. What about the child molester example? Who are we to say they need help? Arent we forcing our code of conduct upon them? Who is to say they dont see themselves as a 10 year old boy going after a 12 year old girl?
Did you read my posts? I said that they are fine until they start harming other people.

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The only thing we need to force on those people are a muzzle of a gun barrel to their head before the trigger is pulled.

Your comparison though is not the same. A child molester is hurting others. A person who has their vag molded into a penis is not.
It harms their delicate sensibilities.

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And the blind guy walking towards a cliff... do you help him or just let him walk off the edge?
Get real, don't be such a liberal
I would ask him if he was sure of what he is doing. If he says yes, then who am I to question his decision making skills?
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