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Old January 20th, 2011, 02:37 PM   #61
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The nail has been hit on the head. There are also people that think they're gorillas, Atila the Hun, etc., just like there are males that think they're females. I'm not saying they don't have certain thoughts or feelings - who knows but them? Just because they say they have these feelings "naturally" doesn't mean they're not messed up. These poor people need help, just like the guy who thinks he's a gorilla.
so if a guy wants to be a gorilla and can do this without hurting other people he is fucked up and needs help? you would be a great muslim.
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Old January 20th, 2011, 02:46 PM   #62
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so if a guy wants to be a gorilla and can do this without hurting other people he is fucked up and needs help? you would be a great muslim.

Yes - he does need help. Normal men think that they're men. I have no idea how a Muslim would deal with a man who thinks he's a gorilla, so I can't answer that. But if he would say the guy needs help, I guess I would be good at that aspect of being a Muslim.
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Old January 20th, 2011, 02:51 PM   #63
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Yes - he does need help. I have no idea how a Muslim would deal with a man who thinks he's a gorilla, so I can't answer that. But if he would say the guy needs help, I guess I would be good at that aspect of being a Muslim.
good at forcing other people to your will. this country was founded on freedom. freedom of expression is one of these fundamental rights, synonymous with freedom of speech. If you take away a persons right to express themselves, how long is it before you are dictating how they vote, who they work for, how they spend their money, etc?
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Homophobes want the kawk.
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Old January 20th, 2011, 02:54 PM   #65
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Lol. I cannot even imagine living a life of denial.
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Old January 20th, 2011, 03:01 PM   #66
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good at forcing other people to your will. this country was founded on freedom. freedom of expression is one of these fundamental rights, synonymous with freedom of speech. If you take away a persons right to express themselves, how long is it before you are dictating how they vote, who they work for, how they spend their money, etc?
You sure put a lot of words in people's mouths. Who said anything about forcing anyone to do anything? Saying someone should be helped is not the same as saying you're going to shut them up. I hope if I ever go around thinking I'm a gorilla, my family and those that care about me will try to get me some help.
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Homophobes want the kawk.
This seems to be a crude form of the homosexuals' favorite smear - if you disagree with us, you must secretly be one of us. I guess by that logic I'm secretly a smoker, secretly a fan of big government, etc. As my 10 year old daughter says - whatever.
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You sure put a lot of words in people's mouths. Who said anything about forcing anyone to do anything? Saying someone should be helped is not the same as saying you're going to shut them up. I hope if I ever go around thinking I'm a gorilla, my family and those that care about me will try to get me some help.
if someone does not want help and you help them, you are forcing them. If a person is living a certain way and are happy and healthy doing it, who are you to say they need help? remember when they used to stick people who were different in institutions to help them?
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if someone does not want help and you help them, you are forcing them. If a person is living a certain way and are happy and healthy doing it, who are you to say they need help?


Ok then. What about the child molester example? Who are we to say they need help? Arent we forcing our code of conduct upon them? Who is to say they dont see themselves as a 10 year old boy going after a 12 year old girl?
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if someone does not want help and you help them, you are forcing them. If a person is living a certain way and are happy and healthy doing it, who are you to say they need help? remember when they used to stick people who were different in institutions to help them?
Despite your hostile tone, I don't think we're really saying anything that much different. I would agree that it's only when someone's condition crosses the line so that he's likely a danger to himself and/or others that the state is justified in using force to get him help. And that's the line the law draws as well. However, someone can be seriously mentally ill, and still not cross that line (e.g., the happy gorilla man). In such a case, it's up to that person's family and friends to urge him to get help.
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I agree. A dyke friend of mine basically said the same thing a couple of weeks ago. You makes che choices you live by, there is no "gay gene", you are not born gay. If a dude who wears dresses and touches weiners want to enlist and serve our country, who the fukc has the right to tell him/her no? certainly not a bunch of stay at home nancy homophobic christians. IMO, people should be allowed to do as they please unless it affects my way of life.
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Old January 20th, 2011, 04:16 PM   #72
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Ok then. What about the child molester example? Who are we to say they need help? Arent we forcing our code of conduct upon them? Who is to say they dont see themselves as a 10 year old boy going after a 12 year old girl?
The only thing we need to force on those people are a muzzle of a gun barrel to their head before the trigger is pulled.

Your comparison though is not the same. A child molester is hurting others. A person who has their vag molded into a penis is not.
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The only thing we need to force on those people are a muzzle of a gun barrel to their head before the trigger is pulled.

Your comparison though is not the same. A child molester is hurting others. A person who has their vag molded into a penis is not.
You are correct. I was just saying using steveo/Mike's thinking that would be the molesters point of view.
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Oh and for the homophobes, if a transgender was in the shower with you there are good chances she would be also attracted to females and if you don't believe in transgender then really she is a woman.. so where does the whole "gay" worry come in?
I would re-join the Army right now if they had co-ed showers. I'd be the most showering mother-fucker in my company. I'd shower ten times a day. I'd be all like, "Hey. How you doin'?" to the women in the shower.
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I see you're new here. Read a few more months of Aber's posts and get back with me.
Hey give the guy a break. Its good to see somebody with common sence here, besides you and me
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Abe, you understand there is a difference between a gay person,a transgender person, and a pseudo-transvestite who's trying to get kicked out of the military by pretending to be crazy, right?
Yes I do. One is a person who enjoys the company of the same sex(who really enjoys thier company) and one who dresses as the opposite sex. And the other... a friend of yours
Oh wait there all your friends right?
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His (wolverine 00 xj) post was 100% correct. The fact that you chose to dismiss it just because you dont like abe's views does not make it less true.
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What does it matter? Is he not allowed his opinion?
According to liberals, conservatives don't get to have opinions because it is looked at like discrimination of the other
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i agree totally, it will harm military readiness. i myself have been in the army for a little over two years now as an infantry soldier and i read some here in this thread some one talking about fighting under fire, infantry is one of the only jobs in the service that works directly under fire. the rest sit on base and might get to go outside of the wire if thier lucky. and as far as the gays being in the military, they have always been in the service but before it was a "Dont Ask Dont Tell" policy. in my opinion gays wouldnt last in the infantry, simply bc of how they would be treated from the other soldiers. the last thing a soldier wants to think about is the fag in his platoon checkin him out when he needs to be focusing on the mission at hand. and im not a gay basher they just dont need to be serving in my opinion.
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You also have no clue how the real world works. Even a broken clock is right twice a day. I was giving him a break, you should know better.
A broken clock may be right twice a day, thats good.
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