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Old January 11th, 2011, 07:50 PM   #61
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Its ok when the left do it but when the right does the same it is wrong. I see it as way for the left to attempt to silence the political right. They are sending a clear message that the right had just better shut up. The conservative right at this point needs to FIRE back at the liberal left and show them the hypocrisy and that the right will not stand for thier shameful behavior in this matter.
Liberalism is a disease, mental defect.
Christ, abe, I think i've said it about 3 times that it's not good for either side to do...but, feel free to keep ignoring it.
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Old January 11th, 2011, 09:12 PM   #62
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Christ, abe, I think i've said it about 3 times that it's not good for either side to do...but, feel free to keep ignoring it.
I am not ignoring what you stated. But I am saying that the left are claiming that the right are responsible for this in some way. But the left forget that they themselves do the exact same thing and the right has not mentioned it as out of line.
Then fast forward..... a democrat gets killed and its the fault of right wing political rhetoric.
Rewind..... Fort Hood shooting, remember, we were told the guy snapped, too much pressure, money problems,
But we all knew the guy is a muslim bent on killing the infedel(us)in the name of allha. People heard him screaming that as he was shooting. But we were told not to jump to any conclusions.
It has happened throughout history about political figures being attacked. It is the fault of NUT JOBS, not what people say.
You are the one ignoring what the right is saying.
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I think what Mike is saying is that if I tell someone to kill someone and they do it, I should be held responsible instead of the one actually committing the act.
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Old January 12th, 2011, 02:00 PM   #64
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I think what Mike is saying is that if I tell someone to kill someone and they do it, I should be held responsible instead of the one actually committing the act.
You are correct, that is how Mike and liberals think. Weird uh?
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Old January 12th, 2011, 02:03 PM   #65
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I think what Mike is saying is that if I tell someone to kill someone and they do it, I should be held responsible instead of the one actually committing the act.
So you're saying that if I hire a hitman to kill someone, I'm in no way responsible because I only told them to do it, and didn't actually do the dirty work?
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Old January 12th, 2011, 02:08 PM   #66
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You are correct, that is how Mike and liberals think. Weird uh?
You two are morons, if you don't think that you're partially liable in a situation like that.
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Old January 12th, 2011, 02:13 PM   #67
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I think what Mike is saying is that if I tell someone to kill someone and they do it, I should be held responsible instead of the one actually committing the act.
Did I say that we need to bring Palin up on charges because she is responsible? no. Did I say I blame the shooter? Yes. I also said she (palin) and other influential political leaders needs to think about what they say before they say it. Jesus, if you don't get that, I don't know what to tell you...
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You two are morons, if you don't think that you're partially liable in a situation like that.
So I thought you never resorted to name calling?
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Did I say that we need to bring Palin up on charges because she is responsible? no. Did I say I blame the shooter? Yes. I also said she (palin) and other influential political leaders needs to think about what they say before they say it. Jesus, if you don't get that, I don't know what to tell you...
Should you be held responsible for a students action?
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So you're saying that if I hire a hitman to kill someone, I'm in no way responsible because I only told them to do it, and didn't actually do the dirty work?
Thats a lot different.. Usually requires a contract... money... Of course you'd both be held accountable.

If i told you to go jump off a bridge say, and you actually did it, am i fault?
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So I thought you never resorted to name calling?
I didn't call them a name outright, I included a qualifier.
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Should you be held responsible for a students action?
I never said that Palin was directly responsible for the shooting. If I was using a lot of violent rhetoric towards a person or group and one of my students committed an act of violence towards that person/group, I would feel partially responsible, I suppose.
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And now think that the reading of the constitution was the reason for the murders in Tucson. Ummm, the mindset of a liberal

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I never said that Palin was directly responsible for the shooting. If I was using a lot of violent rhetoric towards a person or group and one of my students committed an act of violence towards that person/group, I would feel partially responsible, I suppose.
Because of the left wing media and politicians the hate coming from left wing viewers is getting out of hand, check twitter to see what is being said to and about palin. If something was to happen to her, would you say that the media and left wing liberals are responsible?

Besides I thought you were beyond name calling. I guess the true liberal in you comes out when pushed.
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The black knight is the liberal media

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Palin speaks out in her defence and the left continue with thier attack that she did not know what she was talking about.

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Because of the left wing media and politicians the hate coming from left wing viewers is getting out of hand, check twitter to see what is being said to and about palin. If something was to happen to her, would you say that the media and left wing liberals are responsible?


Besides I thought you were beyond name calling. I guess the true liberal in you comes out when pushed.
If Palin was assassinated, I would not be surprised if the person was a left winger. I would not place the blame on the left as I didn't place the blame for the Tucson incident on the right. I blame the shooter for the deaths. It's what I've been saying all along. I would say that the violent rhetoric didn't help things. You just want to make it all about left and right so badly...
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If Palin was assassinated, I would not be surprised if the person was a left winger. I would not place the blame on the left as I didn't place the blame for the Tucson incident on the right. I blame the shooter for the deaths. It's what I've been saying all along. I would say that the violent rhetoric didn't help things. You just want to make it all about left and right so badly...
Actually Mike you are coming around, but the shooter was more of a liberal if anything, from what has been dug up on this guy.
So you agree that there is more violent rhetoric and hate speach coming from the left?
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Actually Mike you are coming around, but the shooter was more of a liberal if anything, from what has been dug up on this guy.

So you agree that there is more violent rhetoric and hate speach coming from the left?
no.

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How come nobody blames the totally FUCKED UP mental health system in this country. Do you people really understand how many dangerous, nut-jobs are living among you? Do you really know? I don't think so.

When I first got into police work nearing 30 years ago, we had places to take crack-pots who were out acting crazy in public. If they were a threat to themselves or others, they got put into a state hospital for YEARS. Now, we only have ONE state hospital. They closed the rest. Guess what? It's like that all across the country too.

Instead of locking crazy, dangerous people in nut houses, they are left to self medicate and live among us. Then we all go ape-shit when they shoot the shit outta people.

You people have no fucking clue what you are talking about. Come for a ride with me and I will show you just how many lunatics live among us right in our own neighborhoods that some of you have fooled yourselves into thinking you're safe in.

Come to my house and meet my neighbor Ray-Ray then we can all act surprised when Ray-Ray shoots up a church, or school, or supermarket or political rally etc. etc. etc.
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