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Old March 21st, 2011, 09:43 PM   #41
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Thanks, I really had to look long term to justify the expense, but so far no remorse.....

Since most of the snow has melted around my house, I also got to work mounting my 15w solar panel and 4 MaxxAir vents on the roof of the Hauler.

I ran the wire from the Solar panel down the Fridge roof vent and attached it to the 12v terminals on the fridge, from there it back feeds to the battery. While not able to really recharge the battery's everyday while in use....the panel should be able to keep the coach batteries topped off without having to keep it plugged in.

I have had Maxx airs on my last couple of rigs and loved em. I kept the ones off of the hillbilly hauler, and bought a few more. The garage has an electric open and close feature with a rain sensor, but I like to drive down the highway and keep the vents open without them getting broken from the wind. It sure is nice to get back from a long day of wheelin in the rain and have a dry bed even though you forgot to close the roof vent befor you left in the morning:)

Also got most of the Interior LED lighting installed. New LED taillights, Rear outdoor lights to replace the KC daylighters, even though White Rhino loved em.
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Old March 24th, 2011, 06:49 AM   #42
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I've been looking, no big hurry and spending a lot of time researching toy haulers. I really like the way my bro's turned out but we use ours a lot for winter sports and I think replacing our traditions 5th wheel with a toy hauler is best.
Raptor and Cyclone seem to have my eye as for doing this set up. Your Raptor must be a 4014 then, what year is yours?
There are a few years of the Raptors that have a single bedroom slide that are an open back design. These also caught my eye since I have an 05 Unlimited that I'm not sure if I'm building it to keep or not. If I keep it, a 14' garage would be very tricky. I was going to build it for a customer and then he was diagnosed with stage 3 lung cancer --- his second round. Wish him the best.

A big concern of mine is making sure its actual a 4 season model, thermopane windows, insulation.... Our Cedar Creek is awesome in the winter.

Agree on the max air's, I have them on my existing 5th wheel and love them.




Enjoy Canada, one of these times I'll make it back there with yall.



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Old March 28th, 2011, 08:50 PM   #43
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The model number is a 3814. It is about 41.8 feet long. The garage is actually about 14.5 feet. This unit is a 2006 and does not have the arctic package. Andrew and I were discussing the possibilities of fitting an unlimited in mine as we were sitting around around a smoldering campfire freezing our ball joints off in Canada this weekend...it would be close without a spare mounted.

I really like the I beam size and set up of the Fusions and Raptors (they are the same chassis) both are built by Keystone, I believe in the same place.
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The model number is a 3814. It is about 41.8 feet long. The garage is actually about 14.5 feet. This unit is a 2006 and does not have the arctic package. Andrew and I were discussing the possibilities of fitting an unlimited in mine as we were sitting around around a smoldering campfire freezing our ball joints off in Canada this weekend...it would be close without a spare mounted.

I really like the I beam size and set up of the Fusions and Raptors (they are the same chassis) both are built by Keystone, I believe in the same place.
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load that bitch up and leave with us on thursday. I heard you have all winter off
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load that bitch up and leave with us on thursday. I heard you have all winter off
He's skeered.
Yeah Dar, quit talking about it and use it!
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He's skeered.
Yeah Dar, quit talking about it and use it!
Not to mention that he probably has enough Veg Oil for his Cummins to make the trip.
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Old March 29th, 2011, 06:38 AM   #48
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FWIW I can tell you Raptors and Fuzions are built in two different plants, always. Very simular construction platforms though.

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This unit is a 2006 and does not have the arctic package. Andrew and I were discussing the possibilities of fitting an unlimited in mine as we were sitting around around a smoldering campfire freezing our ball joints off in Canada this weekend...it would be close without a spare.
I think I froze more than just my ball joints. I need to invent a methane powered heat exchanger for my sleeping bag and I will never let Jon bring that dinky assed tent again.
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I think I froze more than just my ball joints. I need to invent a methane powered heat exchanger for my sleeping bag and I will never let Jon bring that dinky assed tent again.
I thought it was warm for Zero degrees, lol. Next time I'm getting some hand warmers to put down near my feet! Don't waste $ on toe warmers, those things never warmed up in my boots in the morning I think it took 2 hrs to thaw out.

So Dar, what was our conclusion would an Unlimited fit in your toy hauler?.........James, get an accurate measurement on your unlimited so we can decide.

This is what rockcrawler.com has, but you can't really tell whether it's bumper-bumper or spare tire.

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13.9 feet should fit, I will talk to Chuck and have him bring his over and see if it fits some time.

BTW winter is over Kitson
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Old April 12th, 2011, 11:35 PM   #52
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Went on a couple hour test run / camping trip this weekend with the new hitch setup and wheels/tires. I only have one thing to say...the 5th Airborne Pinbox is SWEET!

The truck rides like there is merely a nice load in the bed....you know, like how they really start to ride good with a ton of bricks in the bed. No chucking, no feeling the bumps from the trailer through the hitch at all! With the pivot point farther back it followed the tire tracks of the tow rig almost as closely as my bumper hitch car hauler, and backs up almost like a bumper hitch trailer as well.

My old setup really cut the corners, and I always had to take the turns extra wide (Think Semi turns) mostly because the axles were so far back. This thing is like towing a sports car in comparison, It was also much more relaxing knowing I could not hit the cab if I jacknifed it a little too much (even with the slider back). Ditching the sloppy slider hitch was also a nice upgrade as well, and it will not be missed.

I inflated the airbags to 110 psi for proper ride ht....about 15 lbs. less than my old setup....I am curious to know how much less pin wt. this one has compared to the hillbilly hauler...I would estimate at least 500 lbs. based on the airbags, but I will scale it next time out and know for sure.


Tires seemed fine as well, the added height made the trailer sit perfectly level behind the truck.

I am really glad I opted for the heavier tires than adding a fourth axle. After I sold the other sets of trailer tires and wheels I had, I only had a few hunderd bucks out of pocket on the new G rated tires and wheels. A big thanks to all those that tried to talk me out of a quad axle.

This trip mt. bikes...Next trip Quads, third trip...Cruiser

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Well I have about 6 trips under my belt with the new setup the farthest so far out to Wyoming / Nebraska to shoot prairie dogs. We had 4 full size utility quads, all our guns, ammo, shooting tables, and full of water and gas (98 gal water, 30 gal gas) The wt. should be similar to that of the land cruiser. We pulled low 10s (mpg) out and high 10's coming back from the wild wild west. In fact we pulled over 11 mpg on a couple tanks.

It pulled the hills very well and we never needed to downshift out of 6th gear for any hill on the freeway, although I did put the stock pizza slicers on the truck for the trip. Going back to stock tires really helped it on the long pulls as well as kept my EGT's solidly in the yellow instead of tickling the red 1250 on the big hills.

At this time I am putting to rest my interest in a big rig as a tow machine, I don't feel in need of the power or the pin weight capacity, and I have been in several tight places already that required four wheel drive and a lot of skill to get into and out of. One camping location a few weeks ago I was scrambling to get out of our camping spot, while a dually in our group towing a much smaller bumperpull got stuck and needed to get pulled out by a bunch of quads.

I have yet to haul the Land cruiser in the toy hauler, but am planning a long trip in July so I should have a report soon on the complete setup. Presently I am starting a new project, a 26 foot two place tilt trailer, that I am planning on converting from a bumperpull to a goose or 5th wheel...I will keep you posted on the next project.
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My 5er isn't a toy hauler. I have considered a small car trailer or enclosed to pull behind the 5er. But many states won't allow doubles.
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I had considered doubles as well, early on....just hard to back em up.

one of the main things to consider with doubles is overall length.
I don't know all the laws, but wanted to point out that a very thorough investigation should be done, before going this route.

Very cool setups here!
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Old June 30th, 2011, 01:55 PM   #55
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How have your G614's been working? I need to replace my Michlin 245/75/16s as they are starting get get cracked pretty bad and was looking at going with the same goodyears that you have. Going to be a nice chunk of change, but if I am going to be replacing all 4 I might as well upgrade them.
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Hey Tweak...I can not describe the feeling of confidence now with these tires...as you know you can't see your tires under our trailers so it is nice to know that...unless I pick up some road hazard, the tires are not going to fail. In the last 3 months I have over 4,000 miles on em, tires and wheels look great. I think I got em from trailertiresandwheels.com I drove to Ohio to pick em up....he had pallets of recently manufactured G's in stock, at great prices...I had mine filled with equal. The only other tire I would consider is the Michelin XPS Rib....those are great tires as well...not rated quite as high in wt. , but still a great choice, and probably rated higher than your wheels. I would go as big as you can fit.
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Hey Tweak...I can not describe the feeling of confidence now with these tires...as you know you can't see your tires under our trailers so it is nice to know that...unless I pick up some road hazard, the tires are not going to fail. In the last 3 months I have over 4,000 miles on em, tires and wheels look great. I think I got em from trailertiresandwheels.com I drove to Ohio to pick em up....he had pallets of recently manufactured G's in stock, at great prices...I had mine filled with equal. The only other tire I would consider is the Michelin XPS Rib....those are great tires as well...not rated quite as high in wt. , but still a great choice, and probably rated higher than your wheels. I would go as big as you can fit.
Thanks for the comments & suggestions! I was looking at the Michelin XPS Rib as well. They are a bit cheaper then the prices I was seeing for the Goodyears.
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FYI trailer tires with a center rib wear better.
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Both the Goodyear G614's and the Michelin XPS are ribbed for towing pleasure.

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Well it has been a busy summer, we have used the toyhauler 12-14 times this season, (35 nights my wife says) and still contemplating trying to slide in another trip or two before the snow flies.

I have towed the Cruiser inside the hauler a couple times, one long trip to Canada, and it has been great. No issues other than cleaning the dirt out of the E track when I get back:) I have also towed my Tj in it to the Sand dunes and that is even easier, as it is so much smaller than the cruiser. Since I am done with most of my long trips I put the 315's back on the tow rig. The stock tires made a noticeable difference in hill pulling ability of the truck. With the stockers on, I barely have to downshift on hills in the midwest. With the big tires, I would have to downshift 6-10 times if I was headed to Canada, and the EGT's run solidly 100 degrees higher than the stock tires.

Overall towing impression has been great....it tows better (smoother) than my 6x10 wedge cargo trailer...and probably stops easier as well (3 pairs of 12" brakes). I have towed several times in high side and headwinds with no problems, people that have not towed goosenecks and 5ers just don't get how much better they handle the sidewinds. The 3/4 ton Dodge Cummins 6 speed manual has plenty of power and comfort, and I need a pickup anyway.

I did have a flat tire on the rear of the truck while towing this summer, ( I ran over some road debris) and it was totally manageable....although I pulled over before it was on the rim...barely.

I will continue to use the Dodge but if I happen to fall into a newer dually cheap I would be open to one...I purchased a JK unlimited for my daily driver so I don't have to have the driveabilty of a SRW versus a dually...I have looked at a couple Big rigs, but just can not justify another vehicle when the Dodge hauls it so well. Unfortunately a 4 door Jk will not fit without a lot of mods....I will remeasure when I put a shorter winch bumper on the JK, but I think it will still be 3-5 inches too long to fit in the trailer even without the spare mounted.

I took some pictures of it this summer that I will post as I come across them.

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