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Old December 10th, 2010, 12:56 PM   #1
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Gladwin Unit intends to CLOSE Forest Roads



If you recreate in the Gladwin Unit Managment Area, PLEASE follow the link below and read the Compartment Review Packets at he bottom of that page. If you know of any Forest Roads in the Compartments notify GLFWDA about which ones are important to our form of recreation and we will do our best to ensure they are not abandoned or obliterated.


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http://www.michigan.gov/dnr/0,1607,7...6200--,00.html
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Old December 16th, 2010, 06:08 AM   #2
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There aren't any roads in the Gladdwin area that people don't want to see closed?
I find this a little hard to believe.
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Old December 16th, 2010, 06:16 AM   #3
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Is there a map showing the intended closures?
I've not wheeled in that area in my life that I can recall so I wouldn't have a clue of what's up there.
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Old December 16th, 2010, 09:19 AM   #4
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No there isn't.

More explanation (from the December GLFWDA LUC Report):
The Gladwin District Open House was held to give the public the opportunity to comment about the projects the District plans to undertake in 2012. This is a bit of a misnomer as the opportunity to comment is VERY minimal. The LUC obtained a PILE of information no less than ¾” thick about the various projects. Each contains a great deal of information about the logging that will take place in each compartment and a map that does show the road system in each, but there is NO information about which roads are to be closed. Discussions with Forester Steve Nyhoff indicated that the process for deciding road closures is on a site specific basis that will only begin when each timber sale is administered. The dates of the timber sales are weather Dependant and, as such, no time line can be given. The administration of the sale will only leave about a two week period between the inspection of the road system and the implementation of the project’s decision governing which roads are to be closed. This leaves GLFWDA little opportunity for involvement. Mr. Nyhoff’s advice was to select which roads were most desirable by the 4x4 community and send in an early request that they be kept open. He advised that the District Manager was ultimately responsible for the decision and comments are merely “taken under advisement”. This indicates that they don’t really carry any real weight and are not appeal-able through the current process. The LUC finds this EXTREMELY disconcerting. This process MUST be improved if GLFWDA or the public are to have ANY real impact upon the road system on State lands.
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Old December 16th, 2010, 09:34 AM   #5
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ugh... more closures because of money from logging. I wish I knew the road system there.
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Old December 16th, 2010, 09:36 AM   #6
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ugh... more closures because of money from logging. I wish I knew the road system there.
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Old December 16th, 2010, 10:09 AM   #7
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Glanced at the links and I only found tables detailing the meetings that are to be held. Is there a map that shows what roads are purpose to be closed? My parents place is on Secord Lake in Gladwin. This is very disappointing and concerning to me.
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Old January 25th, 2011, 02:17 AM   #9
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Pat,
All the "forest roads" that are useable and legal are non maintained county roads. Any two track in the Gladwin area is a spur that takes a person back into an area.

None of these connect anymore because there will always be a large muddy area between them. Any fear of loosing the "truck trails" won't happen because they are county roads and not the Departments.

Mud has always been a large issue in Gladwin and continues to be... ORV trail in the M-61 area went from 75 miles to 22 miles with 3 miles of ORV route because of wet issues.
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