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Old November 18th, 2010, 06:19 PM   #61
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At work my dad has a light fixture on his boring mill that is run through a phase converter. It's hooked up to 120 and I'm not really sure why it is hooked up after the phase converter. Testing it with a volt meter yields 120V. He had incandescent bulbs in it before but replaced them almost weekly. He switched to a CFL three years ago and hasn't replaced it yet. So in some cases they are MUCH better.
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Old November 18th, 2010, 06:54 PM   #62
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We switched to 90% CFL's at work a few years ago, with mixed results. My old incandescent bulbs I would turn on when I wanted light and off when done. Now I turn on the CFL's when I come in to work so they get bright enough (takes a few minutes) and I leave 'em on all day in case I need to see (don't have time to wait for them to get bright).

Summer months I prefer the CFL's because they are cooler at my desk. What do I use for the three dimmers in my house now?
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Old November 19th, 2010, 11:21 AM   #63
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What is truly amusing about this statement is that with the exception of the guy with piss poor electricity everyone else in this thread (including myself) will still be using our currently installed CFL's long after your "stockpile" has burned out.

I'll bet you have a closet full of beta tapes huh??


I lived in my current residence about 10 years (60 year old house)...I have 2 lights in the basement that I replaced every 2-6 weeks from about the day I moved until I put in CFL's 3 years ago. They are still there.
You, along with most of the others in this thread, are missing the point. I like to have a choice. It's called liberty, something we used to value in this country.

I like to choose which bulb to use where. I have CFL bulbs and I use them when it makes sense to ME. In some places I do not use them. It's up to me to make that choice not the government in Washington DC.

BTW you can buy incandescent bulbs that have a life span equal to the average CFL.
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Old November 19th, 2010, 11:44 AM   #64
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You, along with most of the others in this thread, are missing the point. I like to have a choice. It's called liberty, something we used to value in this country.

I like to choose which bulb to use where. I have CFL bulbs and I use them when it makes sense to ME. In some places I do not use them. It's up to me to make that choice not the government in Washington DC.

BTW you can buy incandescent bulbs that have a life span equal to the average CFL.
Hell yeah. I want to use DDT in my garden and I should be allowed to insulate my house with asbestos. It's a FREE COUNTRY!!! Hell Yeah!!!
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Old November 19th, 2010, 11:49 AM   #65
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Hell yeah. I want to use DDT in my garden and I should be allowed to insulate my house with asbestos. It's a FREE COUNTRY!!! Hell Yeah!!!
By the logic that you should be protected from products that could harm your health you're saying that CFLs should be banned?
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Old November 19th, 2010, 12:07 PM   #66
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Hell yeah. I want to use DDT in my garden and I should be allowed to insulate my house with asbestos. It's a FREE COUNTRY!!! Hell Yeah!!!
Is there some health risk from Incandescents that I am unaware of?
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Old November 19th, 2010, 12:11 PM   #67
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You, along with most of the others in this thread, are missing the point. I like to have a choice. It's called liberty, something we used to value in this country.

I like to choose which bulb to use where. I have CFL bulbs and I use them when it makes sense to ME. In some places I do not use them. It's up to me to make that choice not the government in Washington DC.

BTW you can buy incandescent bulbs that have a life span equal to the average CFL.
I agree. That's my beef. Let me choose on my own.

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Hell yeah. I want to use DDT in my garden and I should be allowed to insulate my house with asbestos. It's a FREE COUNTRY!!! Hell Yeah!!!
Piss poor comparison. There is no health issue here. Rather, it's a matter of choice that compares to the government deciding that I can no longer drive a V8 in my jeep because it isn't efficient enough. I strongly agree with the liberty statement.
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Old November 19th, 2010, 12:52 PM   #68
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I installed CFL's in my house 7 months ago and I had to replace the out outside already. I'm kinda bummed, I like the light it produced but the life sucked ass.
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Old November 19th, 2010, 01:33 PM   #69
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I agree. That's my beef. Let me choose on my own.



Piss poor comparison. There is no health issue here. Rather, it's a matter of choice that compares to the government deciding that I can no longer drive a V8 in my jeep because it isn't efficient enough. I strongly agree with the liberty statement.

Actually there is a health issue here, and it's kind of a funny one. 84Scrambler tries to be a smart ass and say he should be able to use products that the Fed has deemed hazardous, DDT and Asbestos, and yet the Fed is mandating we use CFL's which contain the hazardous material MERCURY, which he apparently has no problem with. And he is oblivious to the liberty aspect of the issue.
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You completely missed me poking fun. I'm laughing at you all trying to guess my true feelings about it. Wow.
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Old November 19th, 2010, 02:31 PM   #71
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Rather, it's a matter of choice that compares to the government deciding that I can no longer drive a V8 in my jeep because it isn't efficient enough.
Look at the government required fuel mileage numbers they're throwing around for the future, I don't see much hope for big V8s either.
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Old November 19th, 2010, 04:42 PM   #72
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I've had a few break in the house and just vaccumed it up without thinking anything of it, until I found out they contain mercury. Don't even bother with them anymore. And I agree, they suck in the cold and don't last.
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Old November 19th, 2010, 11:52 PM   #73
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My input:

Every single bulb in our house is a CFL.

We have had one on our porch that is on 24/7 for the last 2 and a half years.

Since we have moved into our house, 2 and a half years ago, I can only think of 1 bulb that we have had to replace.

I have a wife that only knows how to turn light switches on, they save me a fukc ton of money.

I have never broken a CFL or an old incand bulb for that matter either so the mercury isn't much of an issue to me.

Now that you can get the soft white ones and you don't have to deal with the neon daylight temps anymore you can't tell the difference in lighting.

In summary, I'll stick with my CFLs until the LEDs are the same price...then we will move on.
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Old November 21st, 2010, 11:36 AM   #74
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Old November 23rd, 2010, 06:13 PM   #75
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I agree. That's my beef.
Tell us more about your "beef"...

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Old December 16th, 2010, 02:05 PM   #76
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since there's so much love for CFLs in here, and since Home Depot cut us a pretty big refund on our window project because it took 5 months, and 5 separate appointments to wrap up the project (the last two window sashes were finally brought out correctly without the grids/muttons last Friday) we figured we'd give them another try.

I even bought the giant, 300W equivalent "garage" light that burns at something like 67 watts and is very freaking bright.

crossing fingers that these actually last a while, and mentally noted that Home Depot supposedly doesn't even require a receipt now for ones that burn out.
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