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Old November 12th, 2010, 04:41 PM   #41
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Try putting a CFL on a clapper, it's like a strobe light. So, I don't use them
If you still own a clapper....you may be a redneck.
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Old November 12th, 2010, 08:26 PM   #42
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Just paid my energy bill and found out that I will be receiving 12 "free" cfls from them . . yay, I think. . .
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Old November 12th, 2010, 10:00 PM   #43
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Old November 12th, 2010, 10:14 PM   #44
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I think I'll stock up on old Edison lights until LEDs get cheap. I tried them in the only place I can stand their color of light - on the porch, and they last about a month in the winter. Gone through nearly a 12 pack in 2 years. Not good life at all.
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Old November 12th, 2010, 10:29 PM   #45
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I think the only place that makes em is China. Thanks to our government thinking of us and supporting communists.
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Old November 13th, 2010, 12:13 PM   #46
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The only thing i like about the CFL is the fact i can get a 600W equivalent to screw into a standard edison socket.

I get shit tons more light in my garage for actually only using about 80-100W per bulb.

Are they regulating every type of incandecent, or just the standard tungsten filiment?

I really like the halogen light bulbs for my motion sensor lights, i would hate to have to put a CFL in those.
They aren't specifically outlawing incandescent, they are mandating a minimum lumens per watt. If an incandescent can meet the new standard it would be allowed.
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Old November 13th, 2010, 04:39 PM   #47
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I think the only place that makes em is China. Thanks to our government thinking of us and supporting communists.
what isn't made in China?
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Old November 14th, 2010, 10:42 PM   #48
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what isn't made in China?
Exactly. What I have noticed is that most if not all products from the big box stores, Home Depot, Lowes and the rest, is that thier products are made abroad and the small hardward stores... made in the USA on more and more things. Bought a light switch because the one I had was snapping and popping so I pulled it out and yep, made in china. Went to the ACE Hardware store and got a new one. I looked to see if it was made here or there. It was made in the USA.
I do tend to look more for that familar logo when I buy products from the store. Buy American and keep our money at home and help get our economy going.
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Old November 15th, 2010, 08:33 AM   #49
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Full spectrum and made in the USA....

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Old November 16th, 2010, 07:45 AM   #50
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Seriously? You've never had a CFL last longer than 2 months? I call BS. I've been running nothing but CFL's inside for over 2 years and haven't had a problem. I also have them outside and in my non-insulated garage.
call bs all you want. I don't have any reason to lie or exaggerate.
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I have a CFL outside the backdoor that has been running 24/7 for over 3 years now. The only time it has been off is during a power outage. It was advertised with a life of 10,000 hours. It has been going for over 26,000 hours now.

I put CFL flood lamps in our can lights in the kitchen. I had 2 of the 8 go out within 3 months. The other 6 just started to go out a couple months ago after 3 years. They were advertised a 10,000 hour life. They ran an estimated 9500 hours. I just replaced them with a slightly higher output CFL. We will see how they last. I put the big 200W CFL's in the barn. They put out way more light than the 100W bulbs I was using.
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Old November 16th, 2010, 01:48 PM   #52
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CFLs are outlawed in my house. My wife smuggled one in last week though

Looks like there is going to be a black market for incandescent bulbs pretty soon.
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Old November 16th, 2010, 03:09 PM   #53
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A "60" watt CFL running 8 hours a day = $5.26 a year at .15c a kWH.
A 60 watt incandescent running 8 houts a day = 21.02 a year at .15c a kWH

A standard 60watt CFL costs what? $2 a piece? Hard to beat the savings on that. You could buy 7 of them for the same fixture and still save money.

Both standard CFL and incandescent bulbs are in the 2700-3000K range... so the colors are the same.

I prefer 5000K+ florescent though because it's so much closer to natural light.
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Old November 16th, 2010, 03:13 PM   #54
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I've been using CFL's for 3-4years now, not a single one has went out. They were thrown into a box, and driven across the country when I moved out of MI, re-installed here. They have since been moved to 2 apartments down here as well, no problems.

I like to let the house get pretty cool this time of year, and they do take a couple extra seconds to get bright, but for the amount of money I save with them, its a small hassle.
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Old November 16th, 2010, 03:36 PM   #55
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The question is.... the bulds we buy are they made in the USA? or abroad?
One way to support this country is to buy what is made here even if it costs a little more.
I do and at times some things we need does have the made in china tag but I aways look first and try to get something made here.
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Old November 16th, 2010, 09:27 PM   #56
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We burn candles made from liberal democrat oil extract. We save money and the planet.

How the hell am I going to get a bulb for a heat lamp in the chicken coop. Chickens don't like CFL's

Also have you ever tried a CFL on a light with a dimmer switch. They flash on and off like some kind of sick interogation.
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Old November 16th, 2010, 09:29 PM   #57
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Also have you ever tried a CFL on a light with a dimmer switch. They flash on and off like some kind of sick interogation.
I'm pretty sure the packaging says not to use them with a dimmer.
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Its printed on the base of the bulb.
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Old November 17th, 2010, 03:20 PM   #58
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I'm pretty sure the packaging says not to use them with a dimmer.
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Its printed on the base of the bulb.
x2 You have to buy special "dimmable" CFL's. On halloween I found out that my porch light made a cool strobe if I turned the dimmer down.

My dad gave me that CFL and a few others for free, I won't be buying any, anytime soon.
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Old November 18th, 2010, 11:19 AM   #59
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My dad gave me that CFL and a few others for free, I won't be buying any, anytime soon.
You won't have a choice before long. Incandescent bulbs will be outlawed beginning in 2012 starting with 100 watt . Read below.

I'm going to stock up now. These things will be like gold in a few years.


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Dec 19, 2007

Incandescent light bulb

In addition to raising auto fuel efficiency standards 40 percent, an energy bill passed by Congress yesterday bans the incandescent light bulb by 2014.

President Bush signed the 822-page measure into law today after it was sent up Pennsylvania Avenue in a Toyota Prius hybrid vehicle. The House passed the bill by a 314-100 vote after approval by the Senate last week.

Rep. John D. Dingell, D-Mich., chairman of the House Energy and Commerce Committee, said the legislation will boost the energy efficiency of "almost every significant product and tool and appliance that we use, from light bulbs to light trucks."

The phase-out of incandescent light is to begin with the 100-watt bulb in 2012 and end in 2014 with the 40-watt.

All light bulbs must use 25 percent to 30 percent less 2014. By 2020, bulbs must be 70 percent more efficient than they are today.

Australia was the first country to announce an outright ban by 2010.
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Old November 18th, 2010, 07:06 PM   #60
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I'm going to stock up now. These things will be like gold in a few years.
What is truly amusing about this statement is that with the exception of the guy with piss poor electricity everyone else in this thread (including myself) will still be using our currently installed CFL's long after your "stockpile" has burned out.

I'll bet you have a closet full of beta tapes huh??


I lived in my current residence about 10 years (60 year old house)...I have 2 lights in the basement that I replaced every 2-6 weeks from about the day I moved until I put in CFL's 3 years ago. They are still there.
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