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Old November 11th, 2010, 08:41 PM   #21
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Just bullshit to regulate it.
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Old November 11th, 2010, 08:53 PM   #22
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I switched from fluorescent tubes to CFLs in my garage 2 yrs ago. It only gets heated when Im in there working. They probably spent 80 percent of the winter frozen, and the other time roasted by my wood stove. They have weathered the cold and the temp swings just fine. They take a few minutes to come up to full brightness in the dead of winter, but nothing like the old fluorescent tubes I used to have. None of those made it through one whole winter. I switched most of my bulbs 4-5 yrs ago to CFLs and have replaced 4-5 out of maybe 20 total.
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Old November 11th, 2010, 09:01 PM   #23
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We've been using them for a while now and they seem to last longer than regular bulbs. When they break or burn out I'll mail the pieces to congress
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Old November 11th, 2010, 10:25 PM   #24
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I've replaced many of mine with CFL's. Most work fine, I've had a few fail. The service life seems to be exagerated. They last longer, but not as much as claimed.

They don't like timers, dimmers, photocell, motion activated fixtures, cold temps, or apperently being turn on and off often. I think it's a bad idea to mandate them until more of the bugs are worked out. I may have to stock up on incandecents while I still can.
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Old November 11th, 2010, 10:56 PM   #25
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I think the service is longer but not as claimed also. I have heard their life span is reduced by heat. If you put them in a light fixture where the base is above the glass they do not last long.
Oh what about the energy they save maybe a plus side.
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Old November 11th, 2010, 11:03 PM   #26
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I have cfl's in most places and led's in high usage locations(bathrooms and hallways). I totally dig the led's
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Old November 12th, 2010, 08:41 AM   #27
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I have cfl's in most places and led's in high usage locations(bathrooms and hallways). I totally dig the led's
How much do you pay for your LED's what watt replacement are they?
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Old November 12th, 2010, 09:52 AM   #28
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aren't LEDs extremely focused beams? How do you light up large rooms with them?
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The only thing i like about the CFL is the fact i can get a 600W equivalent to screw into a standard edison socket.

I get shit tons more light in my garage for actually only using about 80-100W per bulb.

Are they regulating every type of incandecent, or just the standard tungsten filiment?

I really like the halogen light bulbs for my motion sensor lights, i would hate to have to put a CFL in those.
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Old November 12th, 2010, 10:32 AM   #30
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The only thing i like about the CFL is the fact i can get a 600W equivalent to screw into a standard edison socket.

I get shit tons more light in my garage for actually only using about 80-100W per bulb.
that's kind of the draw for all of them. They put out the equivalent of the incandescent bulb, but only use 25% of the power.
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Old November 12th, 2010, 10:34 AM   #31
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Ive used the cfls in the kitchen, hallway, the basment (unfinished) and various small lamps. they work good and last quite a while. I do like they don't produce very much heat.
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Old November 12th, 2010, 10:35 AM   #32
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I don't like how their light output compares to incandescent. Not to mention some CFL's require a break in procedure to leave them on for a few hours before turning off and returning to normal usage.

Fuck the government. Let me use whatever goddamn light bulb I damn well please.
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Old November 12th, 2010, 10:43 AM   #33
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i don't like being told what light bulbs i have to use.

i hate the CFL bulbs, the light they put off is weird compared to normal bulbs.
we've replaced 3 bulbs in the past year in out bathroom (fixture takes 4 bulbs above the mirror) apparently they don't like moisture or something. I don't like the fact they are "toxic"

nothing wrong with regular bulbs.
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Old November 12th, 2010, 11:20 AM   #34
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I don't mind the light of either the natural or warm white CFL except in the bathroom. I needs tungsten filaments for my makeups.
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Old November 12th, 2010, 11:22 AM   #35
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aren't LEDs extremely focused beams? How do you light up large rooms with them?

No. LED technology has changed a ton in recent years. Very wide viewing angles. Plus many lamps use a specialty reflectors.

My LED rock lights are a single emitter with no reflectors as all, just a clear lens to protect them. Same with our under cabinet lights.
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Old November 12th, 2010, 12:07 PM   #36
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I had ha heck of a time getting bulbs in the garage door opener to last more than a few months... Until I went CFL.

I had one last about 4 years the other is still going... Yea in the winter it takes a few seconds to warm up but even in the little case it just a few minutes.

But in general we do not have to replace any bulbs in the house. even the outside porch light is the same one from 1998.
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Old November 12th, 2010, 12:52 PM   #37
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I've had bad luck with CFLs. I've had at least 6 die in less than a year (2 above kitchen sink, 2 in bathroom, 2 in chandelier type light fixture - no dimmer). I've also had them break as I'm unscrewing them to replace a couple of those times.

They don't seem to last any longer... and I don't use a lot of lights. I live alone in the house, and I'm pretty good about turning lights off.

I will be buying only incandescents until LED becomes more reasonable.
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Old November 12th, 2010, 03:05 PM   #38
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and not a word about the fact that the Federal government has no authority to outlaw a light bulbs in the first place.


Like how a bunch of know-nothing politicans couldn't pass laws mandating low flow toilets? CA already passed a law that will phase incandescent lighting out by 2018.

I have CFLs that are 10+ years old (and were made in the USA as well) and still working. The newer, cheaper ones don't seem to be built as well.

Solid state lighting is the schizz - I've seen some demos and they are awesome - bright, nice color, long-lived, and efficient.
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Old November 12th, 2010, 04:23 PM   #39
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I enjoy the CFL in the portable work light in the garage, they can take a hit much better than incandescent.

We all know no one is going to dispose of these things properly though.

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Old November 12th, 2010, 04:40 PM   #40
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Try putting a CFL on a clapper, it's like a strobe light. So, I don't use them
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